Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Why on earth are you nerfing the SPz-12-3 LGS.

6.7 > 7

What lineup is there for germany at 7 ? There is no logic behind this decision. Its a fairly trash as it is, its, low speed, slow reload, paper armour. There are 3 other light tanks which have recoilless rifles, all with better mobility and just generally better. Then you nerf all the Tiger II besides the premium, well its easy to see your logic there…

What are you gonna do with the WZ-141 ? its got double the recoilless rifles as the SPz-12-3 LGS. Why on earth would it then be released at 6.7. Are you going to leave it there to encourage people to get the battlepass then during the next big change move it up ?

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Vehicle: F-16A B15 ADF (IT)
Br change: 12.7->13.3

Additional armament change: instead of 6x AIM-120A, would be max 4x AIM-120B and max 6x AIM-9L/I-1. Remove capability to take AIM-7M, in real life Italy did not use the AIM-7M on the ADF as it was specifically used as a AMRAAM stopgap before EF-2000.

Reasoning is that Italy didnt use 6x AIM-120A at a time on the Falcon, it was just 4x max on outer and first under wing pylon. The AIM-9L/I-1 would allow the aircraft to have 2x (or six if you carry all IR) in the inner most pylons where the AIM-120B isnt. This is how the Italian air force commonly used in mission loadouts. I hope gaijin will take the time to implement this right, and it is good that it is a step in the right direction, but just slapping 6x 120A and calling it a day isn’t really the best course of action.

The IRCCM wouldn’t be overpowered at 13.3, for example the AV-8B Plus has 4x AIM-120A and 2x AIM-9M and has been at 13.0 for a long time (is slightly overpowered and is why its being moved to 13.3). These planes would both be balanced at 13.3.

Compared to the Israeli F-16D (also at 13.3) and would trade better electronics and ground capabilities for better flight perfomance in ARB.

Here is an example of the aforementioned loadout, this example has the AIM-120C-5, but the AIM-120B could also be used here for balance

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So as I read through this DUMB cause I have no other word for it… plans to change BR as we know you guys really have no base on how to change BRs just randomly throwing numbers around…
NAVY:
Z47: 720 HE ammo with 2kg explosive mass pls explain me what can you do against heavy cruisers with this type of ammo??? Killing some of the light cruisers are already a high hope basically emptying your entire ammo reserve on em and still unable to sink em…
Z46: Follows the same path as Z47… no explanation needed…
These ship have no radar tracking… no rockets… Look at the SKR-7 and similar Russian rocket boats… They are sill in 4.3 and now they will be even better cause you pushing the ships that could deal with them properly to 5.0 WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???
Fix your god damn BR change planing and put some logic’s behind in instead of using a monkey to push buttons randomly…

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No. Amraams dont belong fighting 11.7s or fighting 12.0s on a regular rate.

Very silly way of looking at it. 10.0 aircraft that don’t even have flares yet should not be facing late stage IRCCM advanced missiles. Period.

Yes?

Ok? Doesn’t mean they should be the same BR.

I agree, doesn’t make it a 11.3.

Which shouldn’t be at 12.7.

No, it doesn’t. Try again?

No, there isn’t.

Git gud if u can’t do extremely well with an F-16 at 12.3.

Yes, all aspects, shouldn’t exist lower than 11.0.

You clearly do not consider the repercussions these changes cause on a wider scale than just the narrow tunnel vision you focus on at any given BR.

I thought they did, this doesn’t make somebody a troll. Grow up. Your entire post is laughable and every single person here is cringing at your suggestions. Look in a mirror.

Doesn’t matter, at this BR it’s basically 2 free kills.

Which is why it shouldn’t be lowered to the point it becomes a psuedo-fighter from having oppressive missiles.

Skill issue incarnate u are

Absolutely?

have u seen ur stat card

2x magic 2 at 11.3 = 2 free kill

clueless??

So?

So?

Worse missiles on both.

Magic 2s are 2 free kills, F-4E has equal missile load when u factor it gets 8 total missiles… Jaguar IS can’t go lower because magic 2s are 2 free kills. Yea, that’s all it will do, but it will do it.

U should try glancing at my stat card

ok

lmao u rly think it would be ok to have 6x r73 on a mig29 at 12.3… u have no idea

yeah and its a lot more educated on this than yours

How far back does this data go? Im intrigued by the 21 and a half mil games played, would seem to me like one of the more popular tanks?

And yeah, generally for every Turm popping off, there’s 9 more experiencing severe skill issues, and there’s nothing that brings me more joy than nailing the turret ammo from across the map with my beloved Scimitar.

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Nah those are totally just r-73s the lighting makes them bigger 🤖🤖

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You should try comparing the F-4F to the F-1 in the Japanese tree

F-104(plural)

F-104G (china)
F-104J (Japan)

(as I already told u)

There are equivalent F-16s at 13.7 already if u give it 9Ms.

If they really wanted to they could put the AIM-9P-5 on the ADFs for an IRCCM missile but i doubt they will. Essentially a -9P with IRCCM.

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It’s unnecessary if it stays 13.3

Ehh id consider it more on the necessary side rather than unnecessary.

The F-14B is a prime example right now. -9Ls at this BR are rather sub par cause everyone and their mother has a MAW and a decent flare count. The -9P-5 could be a compromise for those who want an IRCCM missile for the ADF

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It’s fully unnecessary. Even if you do literally nothing but give these F-16s TWS and the amraam, they instantly become some of the better 13.3s…

The F-14 performance is not indicative of the F-16’s performance.

F14B

Change: Give it Aim9M to be more in line with F15A/J, F2A and similar that all have IRCCM missiles and sparrows. Phoenixes at 13.0 arent very reliable, especially in uptiers to 13.3/7 or 14.0.
Its BR shouldnt be lowered to 12.7 or something like that, but it should be brought in line with fighters at the same BR

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I don’t see how you think the AV-8B+ and the F-16 should be the same BR just because they have the same missiles. Your change is simply a request to make the F-16s the best 13.3s by a long shot, save for maybe that jeff thing

Plenty of other F16s have IRCCM at this BR. I offered a comprise by reducing the AMRAAM count. Did you even read the full post?

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The ADFs from everything ive heard Do NOT have TWS or Datalink

Yes, i know the F-14 and F-16 are seperate aircraft, thanks for pointing it out.

It doesnt excuse the point that Non-IRCCM missiles at the higher echelons of the game (13.0+) simply do not have the performance required in order to obtain a degree of usefulness and effectiveness needed in order to be considered a viable option for a Fox-2.

Any f-16 that has both IRCCM and fox3 at 13.3 is undertiered

Not really true but okay man

If they end up without TWS then they still end up being superior to things like 29SMT.

Yeah the point is for the F-16 to have a singular downside besides the aforementioned TWS issue.