That is a matter of a badly handled air frame not of a airframe underperforming at it’s Br.
10.3 is the lowest it can be.
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You’re delusional.
This is ridiculous. If anything, the 35XS should move UP to 10.7
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so why should it be at a lower br than the J35D, that dosent get flares and less missiles?
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The potential of doing lots of damage and actually doing the damage is a wildly different thing.
By this logic, F-4 phantoms would be the best planes in game with 8 missiles at 11.0/11.3.
Suggestion,
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Type 1924 Torpedo Boat Jaguar 3.7 to 3.3
While it’s essentially a slight modification of the Type 1924 torpedo boat (Leopard & Luchs) with the Jaguar having 10.5 cm/45 SK C/32 instead of the base 12.8 cm /45 SK C/34 cannons, I feel the three lighter cannons are inadequate for the current BR.
the F-4E is quite strong for the BR actually, now you mention it.
The J35XS fixes the problems of the J35D
You have CMs
You have even more missiles (wasn’t rlly a problem on the j35D but there ya go)
More ammo for the gun it has (120 for 1 gun instead of 100 rounds per gun on the 35D)
And you believe they should be the same BR?
Suggestion,
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Type 1939 Fleet Torpedo Boat T31 4.0 to 3.7
Reasoning,
I never understood why Torpedo Boat 31 went up to 4.0 when its sister boat Torpedo Boat 22 remained at 3.7, the differences in light AA armament isn’t enough to warrant a 0.3 BR change.
The T31 should be lowered in BR over it remaining the current placed BR.
It should be 10.7
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I would like to have the F104 system BR downgraded.
Even though it’s a whale, it has the best engine power of that BR, it doesn’t reach anything, 4 very threatening bullpops and that’s what predominates in that BR.
I am fully aware that this is no discussion thread - but i want to point out the main flaws in your argumentation as you assume that:
a) the post war US F4U-4b would have a correct BR - and
b) the average player skill of US and French pilots would be the same
A short reminder:
The AN/M3 20 mm cannon is widely considered at the best 20 mm cannon in the game (damage, MV, range). The F4U-4b was 6.0 and got lowered to 5.7 because the masses of subpar US players dragged it back to 5.7.
Currently it is one of the most popular clubber planes for vets and allows even absolute rookies way too easy kills.
That the average French pilot produces better results than his US counterpart is imho common knowledge.
F-16A OCU Thailand (Japan)
13.7 (ARB) → 13.3 (ARB)
With the introduction of similar airframes in the form of the upgraded F-16 ADF variants to 13.3 with AIM-120, these aircraft share weaponry and mechanics. It is widely considered the worst F-16 variant due to missing HMD and the miniscule amount of countermeasures.
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F-16A OCU has HMD and Aim-9Ms. 2 things the F-16s going to 13.3 dont have. It does have a comprable CM count though
The 13.3 F-16s will also have a much weaker Radar, that will lack TWS
you don’t even use the missiles on it though
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Chinese 12.7 has TWS
China has no other 12.7 jet either, US and italy do. Would be better if it was left as is.
I only checked looking at the Italian F-16A ADF, so my bad there.
Probably, but that is a different issue to moving the Thai F-16 down to 13.3 because there are other F-16s with AMRAAM" at 13.3
Though I have seen a lot of people requesting AMRAAM on the Taiwan F-16
It does in fact not have an HMD functionality for the radar. The one youre thinking of only applies to the IR missiles. The radar also needs to say “HMS”, not just the pilot. In case you were checking it like that…
45CM isn’t comparable to the 60-90 you see baseline on most other frames. It has Aim-9m, so does the F-16D Barak II for Israel, which has a functional HMD for its radar. The combination of IRCCM missile + AIM-120 exists all the way down at 13.0.
This is still more than what the F-16s moving to 13.3 will have.
correction. 30 standard + 15 large vs 60 standard.
Large chaff is around 5.5x more effective, im not sure about large flares, but they are definetly more effective. Its fair to say this laodout is equal. Sure, its an extremely small CM count for 13.7 or 13.3, but the F-16s moving up arent enough to justify the the F-16A OCU being 13.3 due to lack of CMs
I assume the F-16D is at 13.3 due to being the two-seater variant which is much heavier and draggier and the fact it has Derby and not Aim-120 which are much weaker.
But ultimately that BR range is rather compressed.
Only substantially weaker airframes such as the F4F ICE and Tornado F3 Late. Which ideally both would be a higher BR. But an F-16 with SARH instead of ARH would be 12.7/13.0 material. An F4F ICE or Tonka F3 with SARH are literally at 12.0. There is a reason they are much lower BR.
If the F-16A ADFs got Aim-9Ms, they would potentially end up at 13.7, despite having a much weaker radar and a lack of any form of HMS/HMD
Why is the Object 140 going up to 8.7 but not the Turm III? If anything I feel like the Object 140 is fine where it is and the Turm III should be 8.7.
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