Gonna have to disagree here. The Scimi is a BOAT, admittedly a very powerful one.
You have to realise, this is a very compressed battlerating.
The Scimitar’s flight performance and rudder issues severely limit it’s accuracy with the already hard to aim ADEN 30mms.
Sure a skilled pilot with the bullpups can be an absolute menace, but I don’t think it warrants moving up to 9.0
as for AA’s performance against it, maybe your Gepards or other Oerklion 35mms were too busy being anti tank that anti air…
It’s got very good acceleration and can energy fight decently well, but thats about it.
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That’s because the tech tree variant israel has is a clipped wing spit, which has its benefits but is regarded as worse.
The Weizmans is very good at cas, but the british, American or even russian LF Mk 9s are just as good in the flight model department and can also equip 500LB bombs
Likely impossible unless you want to be placed at 13.3 which would not make the situation any better.
no, I can see the J8F receiving new IR missiles and remaining 13.0.
Definitely not deserving a BR decrease though.
@simsimkek you got any sources to show it can be equipped with the PL5E2 or PL8B?
Also gonna have to disagree with you about the PL-12, those things are deadly.
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That doesn’t change that it is very unlikely.
am talking about GRB and also SQBs not ARB the loadout it have for CAS and its insane engine performance it totally deserves 9.0 for GRB only!!! it has no counter in 8.7 this thing climbs to fast compared with others 8.7 100m/s of climb rate its to much in that BR when just few other jets have a maximum climbrate of 50m/s or almost 60m/s and its even worst when the players brings the scimitar with minimum fuel its insane how fast it climb you literally feel vulnerable in the ground because they are high sniping with bullpups and you cant do nothing about it am speaking from the experience of many years facing this in GRB and also SQBs.
no, the j8F has 2 PL-12s and 4 Python 3s as it’s optimal air to air loadout. That is pretty weak for 13.0.
However we do NOT need ARH carriers below 13.0 (with some exceptions and some REALLY weak aircraft)
GRB*
Yea I can imagine 4 bullpups being strong, especially paired with it’s climb rate.
I can’t really justify it being 9.0 though…
Just look at the other early Fox 3 carriers or IRCCM Fox 2 missiles.
You only ever get one of the two unless we are talking 13.3 and above.
Or does Tornado have AIM-9M as well?
Su33 raise from 13.0 to 13.3
basically a better SU-27 carrys lots of R27ERs the best FOX 2 in game by far as it can even compete with FOX-3s. best early gen flanker variant as it has highest TWR and Canards R73s pretty ok ir and R27ET which is crazy at range insane FM for its BR
compared to F14B at 13.0 it has more missiles and there better than AIM-7M by miles
should be give extra CMS as 48 is small and moved up should be give 96CM and moved up
this is Air RB
because what right should this be fighting 12.0s like F4J
F4F KWS LV?
Tornado F.3 Late? (kinda awful anyway)
Sea Harrier FA2?(also abysmal)
AV8B Plus?
It is not any better than SU-27.
I see no readon for it to be placed at 13.3.
compared to other 13.0s its insane
The heavy planes I see.
What about Viggen?
Nah.
Especially now with F-18 at 12.7.
I see no issue.
4x AIM-120B 2x AIM-9L.
I will say, the Viggen flight model is not that much better than the F-4E FM.
no tho like what THE F18 has AIM-9L and AIM-7M and P which is no where equal to the insanity of R27ER and R73 which have IRCCM and better FM
Is it not? I think it should win every time.
I know it i play so much in sqb with the british version but the weizelman spiti turns more and more better then my british one. I tried so many time to outplay them but they somehow turn better with rockets and bombs sometimes then me without bombs.
ARB isn’t all about one on one.
Why do you think the F-15C was such a dominant airframe for so long?