The XXI could stay even though it’s at every disadvantage, but not the other ones, they’re just worse so why are they at the same br ?
mode: GRB
vehicle: PGZ-09
change: remove br change. though AHEAD ammo makes it more efficient than normal 35mm spaa, it’s anti air efficiency is still not comparable as M247 with proxy fuze.
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what about saab 105g? with bomb computer at BR8.3
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the earlier leclercs are better as they weigh less giving better mobility as it stand the leclerc S1/2 ito90 rafale and 200D-RMV is all i take as those 2 are the fastest as they have less weight
Mode: Air realistic
Vehicle: JH-7A
12.3->12.0
It only has heatseekers. While they’re really good heatseekers, being all aspect pl5s, that still doesn’t get you far when most opponents have potent radar missiles. Pl5c would be very fun to use if it wasn’t going vs insane radar missiles/irccm frequently.
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that means M247 should go higher too, maybe with ap rounds
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AMX-13 (HOT) , Ground RB, 8.3→7.0
This vehicle, which is essentially unusable with missiles, is no different from the AMX-13 (75) in terms of operation. It is useless at close range, and even at long range, there are few suitable maps, and even those are unsuitable for firing. Snail… why are you hesitating? Why don’t you just lower your BR?
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The weight difference is minimal and doesn’t really have an impact, not even talking about the AZUR that combines worst of both worlds
Mode: Air RB
Vehicle: F-16A Block 10 Netz (NOT Netz Mod!)
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.3
Reason: It’s the same as American F-16A Block 10, the Python-3 is an insignificant difference. Wherever the American Block 10 goes, the Netz (Unmodified) should also go.
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All the American heavy tanks that infest BR 6.7 are frankly ridiculous at that BR and should all be increased to at least 7.0.
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Man, my adf. Was my favorite one. WHY?!?
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Mode: ASB
Vehicle: Su-27
BR Change: 13.3 > 13.0
Subpar radar, RWR from essentially an 11.3 jet, subpar flight performance when compared to for example F-15A
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should add more modules to type 90
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Nah, a lot of people asked it for the Italian one. USA and China ADF are just collateral damage, but I don’t think it’s bad for the USA one since you already face plenty of ARH missiles and right now with F/A-18A at 12.3 and F-14 at 12.7 it doesn’t have meaning to grind F-16ADF.
The only one suffering with this change will be the MLU if it sees it’s GRB changed, although it will probably be better now since it doesn’t seems like is going to increase, and now it will have AIM-120s to better defend itself against other aircraft at 12.0 with ARH.
T26E5 especially. Good luck damaging this thing with a tiger
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You need to do one vehicle posts at a time otherwise it will get ignored.
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Mode: AIR RB
- Eurofighter (GER/UK/ITA)
BR 14.3 → 14.7
- Reasoning:
These aircrafts have flight performance like no others and should have nothing to do with anything below them, they stomp everything and are fairly matched only by the Rafale.
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t72 b3
br 11.7 → 11.3
reason
1. Mobility Deficit
- Lower power-to-weight ratio compared to other 11.7 MBTs.
- T-72B3: ~1,000 hp for a 46 t hull = ~21.7 hp/t
- Leclerc S2, M1A2 SEP, and Leopard 2A7V: often exceed 25–27 hp/t
- This results in slower acceleration, poor reverse speed (-4 km/h), and difficulty repositioning after firing—making it vulnerable in fast-paced 11.7 gameplay.
2. Firepower Limitations
- Reload speed with autoloader fixed at 7.1 s (worse than most NATO 11.7 MBTs with human loaders + autoloader hybrids doing ~5 s).
- Gun handling: slower turret traverse and elevation speeds make quick target engagement harder.
- Ammunition: While 3BM60 is good, it’s still behind the best NATO APFSDS rounds at 11.7 in terms of penetration and angled performance.
3. Protection Weakness
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Armor layout is effective against older APFSDS, but struggles against the most common 11.7 rounds (DM53, M829A2)
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Lower plate and turret ring remain prominent weak spots—often one-shot zones for 11.7 enemies.
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ERA and composite coverage don’t match the survivability of Challenger 3 prototypes or Leopard 2A7’s turret cheeks.
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At BR 11.7, it faces top-tier heavy hitters like Strv 122B+, 2A7V, M1A2 SEP v2, and Type 10—all of which outclass it in mobility, reload, and overall versatility.
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At BR 11.3, it would still meet strong opponents (Leclerc S1, Ariete AMV, 2A5) but would have a more competitive niche as a slower, heavily armored brawler.
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Mode: ASB
Vehicle: F-4E
BR Change: 10.7 > 11.0
it is a very fast jet with highly maneuverable missiles and a decent radar, should not really be at the same BR as an F-4EJ which has worse Fox1s and a worse RWR
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but its still stupid to see tiger2p and h in same BR
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