I hate to tell you this but this is being ignored because its all in one comment.
You have to make a comment per change…
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God damnit… Fine guess i’ll post twenty comments. Thank you for the heads up.
MSC - GRB - 10.7 → 10.7
There is no reason to uptier this tank. It’s round is on par with other tanks at it’s BR. It’s reload speed is on par with other tanks at it’s BR. It’s armor is on par with other tanks at it’s BR. And you added it so that there is a 10.7 French line up just to break it 3 months later ?
There is no reason for why this thing should get uptiered.
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Namer 30/Namer Trikshon
GRB - 11.0/11.3 → 10.7
These tanks are arguable worse then CV90 MK.IV despite being higher. The crewless turret is not sufficient for them to be 11.3 since anyone who touches their turret less then gently will detonate it’s ammunition storages. And because all the ammunition is in the turret. You constantly lose all of your ammunition even to grazing shots.
Furthermore the APS on the Trikshon is still not working and therefore shouldn’t be taken into account when deciding on the BR of this vehicle. Untill the APS is properly working again.
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PUMA VJTF
GRB - 11.0 → 10.7
Suffers from the same issues as the Namers except when someone touches your turret it also destroys your tracks and leaves you standing still like a fool without any way to return fire.
It is also not better then the CV90 MK.IV and should not be at a higher BR.
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Larger and better-designed maps would be necessary.
In any case, one of the biggest problems with fast tanks in the game is that players have absolutely no team skills. Everyone plays by advancing without looking until they reach combat zones where they fire at 400 meters. That’s why a light tank like the M18 or the AML 90 can come along and, with a bit of luck, can kill five or six of your team members in a minute and a half.
The problem with fast tanks is solved with two changes. Larger and better-designed maps, so that flanking can be used to fire at long range or risk getting close and being spotted. And another is for players to play more as a team, so that while some look forward, others watch the sides to avoid ambushes from fast vehicles.
PT-16/T14 - GRB- 10.7 → 10.7
The only reason this tanks is going to get uptiered is because it feasts on russian 10.3 premiums. Ballancing a tank on the skill levels of it’s enemies is plain stupid.
If you are however dead set on uptiering this tank. Atleast give it DM33 since it will be now forced to fight 12.0 tanks.
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OBJ 140 - GRB - 8.3 → 8.3
This tank is in no way better then T55A. It’s a sidegrade, trading APFSDS for a slightly more punchy APHE, not an upgrade.
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Merkava MK2D - GRB - 10.0 → 9.7
The addon armor does not provide ANY protection against KE munition and only meager protection against HEAT rounds. So long as the addon armor does not actually provide meaningful additional protection this tank should be at the BR of other 105 Merkavas that is 9.7.
Or do you seriously want to tell me that the paper armored slow Merkava MK2D is comparable to T80UD that has 11.7 armor at 10.3 while being faster and having a better gun ? Please tell me this is an out of season april fools joke.
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Vampire (British) - ARB - 8.0 → 7.7
The other Vampires all have more thrust making them somewhat more viable, but the British variant is underpowered and effectively pointless to play. Would make far more sense to be at 7.7 based on performance compared to other jets at this battle rating.
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have to do one vehicle per post, sorry
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2S38 - GRB - 10.3 → 11.0
This tank has been sitting way too low for way too long. There is zero reason why this OTOMATIC sidegrade should be at 10.3 when the arguably worse Otomatic is 11.3 and mostly equal HSTV-L/RDF-LT are 11.7.
This tank is kept low simply because of waves of newbies that cannot tell a house from a tank. And perform absolutely terribly in it. Putting it higher will not harm newbie’s experience as they’re gonna get their buttcheeks clapped anyway.
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AGS
GRB - 11.0 → 11.3
This vehicle allready has a subpar ammo for it’s BR and is carried mostly by the fact that people don’t know how to deal with it.
If you are indeed dead set on setting it up to 11.7 it should be given M900 as it will be constantly fighting 12.0 tanks and even M833 is ill equipped to deal with those kinds of vehicles.
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T54E2
GRB - 7.7 → 7.3
It’s terrible turret armor can be penned by 6.3 vehicles with a little bit of aiming. It lacks APHE.
This thing is an M47 sidegrade more then anything.
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Can the super props get some love with some br changes because some of them are really strong or quite bad
T54E1
GRB - 8.0 → 7.7
It’s terrible turret armor can be penned by 6.3 vehicles with a little bit of aiming. It lacks APHE and it’s AP rounds are nowhere near as destructive as those of a Somua for example. It also has much worse armor then Somua for example. It’s APDS shatters 9/10 times. and it’s HEAT-FS round is slightly better then 90mm HEAT-FS.
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PZH2000
GRB - 7.7 → 8.0
Laser rangefinder, mobility of a light tank, huge empty spaces where you can hit and do no damage. This vehicle is better then most 7.7 light tanks and is in fact better then the french 8.0 light tank.
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VIDAR
GRB - 8.0 → 8.3
This is basically a PZH-2000 but with 3rd gen thermals and a smaller ready rack. If the Pzh2000 is 8.0 material that makes this monstrosity 8.3 at the least. Furthermore the Obj120 is 8.0 and the Vidar is better in every way.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Tiger II (any Variant), Jagdtiger
Change: Leave at 700HP
Reasoning:
After viewing the Reports, the documents only stated that it has around 600HP with 2500RPM, there is no mention of it beeing the max RPM.
Panthers using rpm-governers is certainly true but I have never heard about that with Tigers, especially considering how “underpowered” the Engine was for their weight. Reducing the engine power on a vehicle which is already struggling with full 700HP is just unreasonable.
There also might be a difference between “Dauerleistung” and “Höchstleitung”, basically like most planes would not permanenly run on WEP since it would reduce the lifespan of the engine which is no issue in War Thunder apart from eventual cooling issues.
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M48A2 G A2
GRB - 8.3 → 8.0
This vehicle is equivalent to Magach 5 and much worse then T55A,Olifant MK.1A or AMX-10RC due to it’s lack of stabilization, thermals or even LRF. As such it should not be at the same BR as T55A, Olifant Mk.1A or AMX-10RC
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Char 25t
GRB - 8.0 → 7.7
This vehicle is slower then Obj 906, has less penetration, lacks stabilizer, lacks LRF and even lacks HEAT/APDS round while having nearly the same reload as 906 and only a second faster then CLOVIS (this one also gets LRF as a treat even), DF105. It is in no way comparable to Obj 906 or even DF105 and CLOVIS.
The only reason it is as high as it is ,is because skilled players can perform well in it. And because only very skilled players now play it. It is getting uptiered and uptiered whilst offering nothing truly amazing compared to it’s counterparts in other nations. In fact it is straight up worse then all of it’s counterparts at this BR !
Anywho that’s my two cents.
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