put the SPYDER to 11.3.
If you are moving the chinese M41A3 up to 5.3, then at least give it better ammo. At 5.7, why would people still play it? might as well just play the chinese hellcat at 6.0.
just add some of my own, all for Realistic Battle mode:
J-7D: 10.7 → 11.0. High flight performance with super strong missiles, is currently dominating its BR bracket, needs to go up.
A6M5 (all versions), A6M6c: Drop by 0.3. Over tiered purely due to people who refuse to learn to not turn with them.
A6M3 Mod 22 Ko: 5.0 → 4.3. This plane is a literal hanger decoration at 5.0. Worse performance than all the A6M5s but at the same BR? No one flies it anymore so you’ll never get enough data to even consider dropping it. 4.3 is the max it should be.
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No. And besides, all the 20mms (anything smaller than 30mm with an explosive round, really) are ludicrously overperforming anyway.
I do agree that the Type 90 was really strong at 11.3. However the Type 90 moving to 11.7 while the M1A1 escapes yet another BR increase is criminal.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-16 MLU Block 20 (China)
BR Change with new AIM-120A alongside the IRCCM missile and Flare Count?
Reasoning:
Since the F-16 MLU Block 20 and the ADF are receiving 120A and be moved to 13.3, will it be better to also give it the IRCCM missile to pair up with the potential uptier to plane with MAW system, it will be inefficient when fighting the planes with the MAW since it dosen’t have IRCCM capability. It will be flared by enemy player automatically, while player that’s playing the plane will have to withstand with less Flare/Chaff already, also if the person noticed, the 9L will likely miss most of the time.
And the flare count may also increse to 90 or 120, Republic of China Air Force’s F16 in serve is showing 120 Flare/Chaff.
But consider this a later model(F-16 AM/BM BLK 70), might just use the in game model and corerect the number of the Flare/Chaff which is 90.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Mirage 4000 (france)
Br change: 13.0->12.7
Reasoning:
Now dont get me wrong I dont think the mirage 2000 and 4000 should be the same br but the mirage 4000 at 13.0 seems abysmal. It doesnt have the kit to fight 14.0 uptiers letalone 13.0 matches
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Saw the update sheets, good decision for the T30. But are you guys not planning to also reduce the reload time of FV4005 and other HESH slingers like the AVRE or M728?
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Vehicles: Mirage F-1C(200)
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR change: 12.0 ➞ 11.7
Reason: Can’t compete with 13.0 jets ,Magic 2’s get easely flares and they also only have 2 ,the Radar missile can’t compete in higher B.R’s, wouldn’t be OP in 10.7 matches in general
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I mean 10.7 downtier with magic2s doesnt seem quite fair
It won’t be OP they fail for me all the time even in rear aspect they go for the first flare
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Vehicle: Type 87 RCV
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.0 ➞ 8.7/8.3
Reason: Large no stab + thermals, no neutral steering and no laser range finder/rangefinder
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user error bro sorry
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Vehicle : AMX-32
BR (from → to) : 9.3 → 9.3
Reason : even if it has a 120mm, the AMX 32 has a engine and a sabot too weak to rivalise with the other tank in uptier
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Vehicle : SO 4050 Vautour IIB
BR (from → to) : 9.0 → 8.7 ARB
Reason : The vautour is a subsonic bomber that doesn’t have its airspawn anymore plus uptiers in 10.0 are unplayable without flares against supersonic fighters.
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Vehicle : SO 4050 Vautour IIA
BR (from → to) : 9.0 → 8.7 ARB
Reason : The vautour is a subsonic bomber that doesn’t have its airspawn anymore plus uptiers in 10.0 are unplayable without flares against supersonic fighters.
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both magic 2’s from 800 meters went for the first flare of a F-4J pushing full afterburner rear aspect
wow sorry f1c to 4.3
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I know but I wonder if it will affect panther 2 because it has a tiger 2 engine and transmission
Either a loadout of 4x 120s and no guns, or 4x 9Ms & 2x 120s and no guns, 60x countermeasures furthermore it has poor airframe performance for a 13.0. Yes, it should be 12.7 minimum.
A-10s are worthless since they are S-L-O-W. Every battle I’ve faced these things on the enemy team, I’ve dunked on them without fail. My team with these–have always failed.
I’ve played them and they are worthless, stock even more worthless. They can’t reach the BF to bomb bases, they can’t compete against fighters, they are SLLLOOOW. Only lucky moments when the enemy isn’t aware is when the A-10 catches a kill or two.
Are you EVEN aware of the BR’s of other Phantoms? Each having the same performance as the Kurnass 2000 & having Fox-1’s.
Most blatant egregious example is the Jap F-4EJ Kai which has 4x 9L’s & 4x 7F’s with a great radar to boot… and its 12.3 BR! & F-4J/S at 12.0 with HMS and 7F’s.
The Kurnass has 6x non-irccm Python 3’s, no Fox-1’s & its 12.3?! it gets matched up with F-16s, MiG-29s, F-15s, F/A-18s & Gripens etc, etc. It doesn’t have the airframe performance nor the missile capability.
Just 2x PL-12, and non-irccm missiles. Yes, it should be 12.7
Clarification, only F-16s that exclusively have Fox-2s and no Fox-1s. In a world of non-irccm missiles, and every jet with countermeasures available–the F-16 with only Fox-2s at 12.0 makes perfect sense.
Theres enough competition at 12.0 to match against the F-16 performance. Get gud if can’t compete with a non-irccm F-16!
Exactly, R-60Ms and short range, non-irccm, easily flared, and weak airframe performance.
Su-17’s & 22 with R-60Ms are nothing as the entire bracket of jet ranks are now fully experienced and knowledgeable players that know how to use countermeasures.
The performance of these jets in combination with R-60Ms are utterly pathetic. Furthermore the MiG-27’s which have superior performance and a better gun WITH R-60Ms! are at 11.0
There is no logical reason to put a weaker jet at a higher BR.
No, in fact they don’t have 9Ms (so you don’t even have the knowledge of what you speak or you’re a lier and troll yourself).
They have 9Ls only and their airframe performance is not upto par with their competition at 11.7 and up-tiers.
2x 9Ms only, & utterly weak airframe performance–its a “Striker” not a “Fighter”. Can’t compete in its current BR bracket.
Now that I mention it, I think it should be 11.3 min, 2x 9Ms with a weak airframe is not 11.7 or 12.3 capable.
So you think just 2x Magic 2’s are enough to warrant 11.3 BR? You’re an utter fool who thinks that Jaguar has the performance to compete at 11.3 when the competition includes Fox-1s + radars, equally better IR missiles and more of them, and better airframe performance.
J-7D is 10.7! F-5E 11.3! same as the Jag IS. F-4E’s 11.0-11.3! (“Tell me you haven’t played these BR without telling me you haven’t played these BR.”)
MiG-29s currently ingame nvr used R-27s (exception SMT) they only used R-73s irl. Their current BR is 12.7, so they can either remain at 12.7 or go even down to 12.3, either is fine with 73s.
Your opinion. Its 20mm with 50-60mm of pen is not uptier material.