Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

Not too many changes on the Air RB front, but the changes that were made are excellent.

The Wyvern going up is fantastic, removing the XP-50s airspawn is also fantastic.

The C-2b at 7.7 is also a great change, the plane will be a lot more usable now (it was very very niche before) whilst not really being a problem since it’s still not that difficult to defend against in the short term. The 163 and Ki-200 going down makes sense given the severity of their most recent nerf.

The Q-5s have flares and great energy but I think 10.0 wasn’t really necessary.

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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles

Vehicle: Type 81 (C)

BR Change: 11.3 → 11.7

Reasoning:
The Type 81 (C) currently fits perfectly into Japan’s 11.3 Ground lineup, however even at the current BR, it already lacks significant capabilites against various common aerial threats, moving it up to 11.7 simply cannot be justified.
It is a short-range IR-Lock dependant SAM, which unlike to other (current) 11.7 SPAA’s (ADATS, FlaRakRad or HQ17 for that sake, though that is 11.3) cannot engage helicopters outside of point-blank range due to their low IR-signature (especially at low movement-speed), it doesnt have a search-radar either, so it’s ability to engage targets as a whole is solely dependant on visual-contact, which is problematic as aircraft tend to not render at longer ranges and can either outrange it, our climb high enough to the point where it essentially has no chance at ever seeing/detecting and therefore engaging them.
Other SPAA’s, such as ADATS, FlaRakRad, Tor M1, HQ17 or 2S6 are far more capable in basically every aspect, the last 3 at the same (current) or even lower BR. (They have SACLOS SAM’s and search-radars, which greatly increases their ability to detect and engage aircraft, especially helicopters, which the Type 81(C) can barely engange)
Moving it up to 11.7 would not only render it almost useless the moment it isnt downtiered significantly, but also remove the only proper SPAA from Japan’s 11.3 lineup.

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No lineup, and if left at 8.7 it has no lineup there either. This whole BR changes kills the only other lineup on sweden until 10.3

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as someone that just had to deal with fighting the HMS Invincible while in a destroyer i can’t agree more

Mode: Ground Realistic Battles

Vehicle: ZSU-23-4M2
BR Change: 7.3 → 7.7

Reasoning:
With high vertical and horizontal guidance speed , ZSU-23-4M2 can fight with different enemy planes.It has more ammo storage and needn’t reloading.ZSU-23-4M2 has better battle efficiency than M163 ,which is in the same 7.3 BR.

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Type 81(C)

Ground RB: 11.3 → 11.3 (not moving up to 11.7)

Are you serious? This vehicle sat at 11.3 without a lineup for MONTHS before the decompression in ground happened, which you left it there in anticipation for the Type 90’s moving up. Now that it’s finally back in a lineup with the Type 90’s for a few months you want to move it back up again? This is some sick joke. Besides the fact that it can easily be one shot by an MG, has no radar and only carries IR missiles this change is just plain insulting to the player base especially while the Tor-M1 and HQ-17 sit at 11.0 and 11.3 respectively. Putting this at 11.7 without a lineup is basically the same as moving it to 12.0, since almost no one will use it at 11.7. This thing is already fodder to TV/IR guided munitions and you want to move it up to the point it becomes literally unplayable. Get a grip.

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Mode: Air Realistic Battles

Aircraft: Kurnass 2000 (Israel)

Change: 12.3 → 11.7

Reasoning: Previously the kurnass 2000 had Aim-7f, making it a good fighter as the F-4EJ Kai. But since the Aim-7f is removed, I’m sure the Kurnass 2000 has lost the ability to cope with target in high altitude. The All-aspect IR missiles it carrriy, which are the only effienct AA weapon it has, lack irccm and is vulnerable against flares in its BR. And its flight performance is not good enough for its current competitor. So generally the Kurnass 2000’s BR should be rated in 11.7 but not 12.3.

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it’s because m163 is too high in that case tho, my opinion.

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Mode: Ground RB

Vehicle: Object 906

Change: 8.0 - > 8.3

Reason: Extremely strong 8.0 vehicle, compare it to say the Char 25t, it is faster, stabilised, and has more penetration. It is unreasonably good for 8.0

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But the Yensei is at 7.7 and is arguably better than the normal Shilka

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Arguably, i feel its more fact tbh

Air RB, Sagittario 2 (jet) , BR 9.3→9.0, Ariete, the same BR, has better acceleration because it has one more engine for the same acceleration performance. The turning performance, which was an advantage of this BR, is not an advantage with this BR.

can Ariete have some love its so bad at 11.7 its a big leo1

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STRV-103C going up to 9.0? I’d understand the A, but the C’s armor is useless at the BR it currently is at, why does it need a nerf?

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at that bryou have the type 93 with no radar and worse missiles and worse thermals. The ozelot is really good at 9.3

GRB
Tor-M1
11.0 > 11.3

HQ-17
11.3 > 11.7

these two are wayyy below their capability BR.
they have nearly 13 and 15km ranged and high G missiles with auto lead lol

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You may be right, its just particularly pathetic. Would be nice for people to be interested in a vehicle that would otherwise get so few players due to its squadron status.

Bedish Swias, also IKV is apparently as good as the best 9.0 105mm tank the TAM but whatever lol

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Mode: Ground RB

Vehicle: Type 69

Change: 8.0 - > 8.3

One of my favourite Chinese tanks!
With the Laser rangefinder, better traverse rate, it is very powerful. Now that the AMD and AM1 are moved up, it could certainly do with being 8.3

Mode: Air Realistic

Vehicle F-104G (China) 10.7->10.3

Reasoning: Lacks countermeasures at 10.7, where it can run into extremely powerful IR guided missiles such as the Magic 2 (On the Jaguar IS), R-73 (On the later Su-25 variants) and AIM-9M (On the A-10C). Back in the day when these missiles weren’t as prevalent, this plane was somewhat manageable, but times have changed and this isn’t the case anymore. The F-104 FM nerf then went and made this issue even more severe by nerfing the MER that the F-104 relies on to hold its speed.

The F-104J has an essentially identical FM and carries two extra AIM-9Js (In the form of AIM-9Ps), and is at a lower BR.

Much of the same logic here applies to the F-4F Early, which also lacks flares at 10.7.

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