Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

Vehicle: Merkava Mk.3B/C

Change: Reload rate 6.5 s → 5 s

Reason: This tank have terrible armor and survivability, bad mobility and M332 APDSFS doesn’t compensate its characteristics. It’s basically the same issue Merkava Mk.4’s have, however they received reload buff.

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Didn’t it have more countermeasures but no HMS? it was also over tiered by being put at 13.7 with those? i may be misremembering

Air RB
Why are there still no changes in realistic air battles???
What are planes like the F-4S Phantom II(premium) and the F-4J(UK) Phantom II(premium) doing on the same BR(12.0)???
Two planes with completely different armaments, which should be separated by at least 1 BR level.
The F-4J(UK) is one of the worst Phantoms in the game, with Skyflash missiles that don’t work and a radar that doesn’t want to properly lock on to targets. Additionally, this plane lacks wing slots that the F-4S version has, making it the heaviest Phantom with weak engines that can barely fly. And both of these planes on the same BR for $70?
Are you kidding people and the British nation? This is simply scandalous.

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Mode: Ground Realistic

Aircraft: Z-9W

Change: 10.3 to 9.3, remove TY-90 or add better anti tank missiles and stay at 10.3

Reasoning: Z-9W lacks anti tank weaponry to be useful at 10.3, the TY-90 is a great missile but only useful against aircraft while the kiowa warrier has hellfire Ks at 10.3 with 5km more range, way more pen and the kiowa warrior has countermeasures where the Z-9W does not.

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“type90 is way weaker then tkx and has way less armour on manlet” that’s why stay at 11.3

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ocu only has 45 countermeasures bro

To be honest if you use it and use terrain and your gun depression to your advantage and its mobility to scoot around and not be super aggressive its really good. You have to use it to the same standards as other glass-cannons don’t be seen and you will do fine. Its a tank destroyer and you use it to at distance pick off tanks behind cover

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Anyone begging for SPAA to move up inside of down doesn’t play the game

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Very good changes but…at least 13.3 is needed for planes for ground battles. But a step in the right direction.

see this comment

Mode: Air Realistic Battles

Aircraft: P-51D-5 (USA)

4.0 → 3.7

Worse than P-51C-10 in every way, with very poor p/w ratio holding it back.

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Mode: Ground Battles

Vehicle: Pantsir

Change: Remove/Disable/Soft lock missile performance to other SPAA.

Reasoning: Best performing SPAA with no equal within War Thunder. Has existed as such since its introduction in 2023.

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im well aware, i have played both sturer emil and ikv 103 and know how to use their strenghts, it just doesnt make sense for ikv 103 to move up bcs its a glass cannon and the heat barely changes anything

see dis comment

@Smin1080p_WT

Any comment on why we have another BR change with no sim changes, especially new sim brackets that allow for the introduction of 12.3 and 13.3 brackets?

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So Type 81(C) as an IR-SAM based SPAA gets moved up to 11.7 while SU-39 and KA-50 (which literally has no counterplay at its own or lower br, except for one chinese SPAA…) get to stay at 11.3?
What exactly is the reasoning here? Are Ka-50 stats still too low because of first-spawn inting?

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Ground Realistic Battles

For the battle rating changes in the current sheet
Please just keep the Finnish T-55M, T-55AM-1/T-55AMD-1, T-62 and Obj.435 at 8.7. None of them fits the standards of 9.0BR, including armour, mobility and firepower. It is a great joke that T-62 and T-62M-1 are both 9.0BR vehicles.

ZSD63/PG87 keep it at 5.3, and lower it to 5.0 if necessary.
Why should you lift the br of a SPAA that already has bad ammo belt capacity and mobility?

VT-5 keep it at 10.7, or give it DTC-02-105 (phase III APFSDS)

Sabra Mk1 lift it further to 10.3
You have created a monster with a 12.0BR APFSDS round and good protection and put it at 9.7 for pretty long time. And you are still trying to keep it at 10.0 to ruin the game experience of lower br players.

Bad take.
The extra 4 r-60Ms are suspicious to say the least.
I javent seen them listed in the manual.
And the flight model is sucky at best especially after the nerf

Main reason is that it creates a better BR-lineup for sweden at 5.0-6.0 and it would increase its rewards

Mode: Air Simulator

Aircraft: P-39N-0

3.0 → 3.7

Aircraft with a short nose that provides superior dogfight visibility for high-aspect shots while also possessing excellent low-altitude performance (0-4km band - where most sim dogfights occur) giving it near-untouchable speeds at its current BR without sacrificing agility. In fact, it possesses superior agility due to less drag and mass to the presently 3.7 P-63A5 - giving it better energy retention all around.

It is held back from its true potential by its low ammo count and bad ballistics (slow muzzle velocity), but these do not justify its dominance against present peer aircraft. It also struggles with low-speed acceleration due to propeller efficiency shortfalls, but in air simulator battles I do not feel this to be as significant of a drawback in air RB as you have time and space to get to speed and once at speed, it is not difficult to maintain it.

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