Ralistic Air battles: Vautour: 9.0-8.3? or airspawn
I find it nice that the Vautour’s are going down in br id like them to do the same in Air RB as well, they are sitting at a 9.0 battlerating with no airspawn and generaly takes off slower than more or less enything else on the airfiled, outside the fact that its a subsonic bomber without afterburners it dosent have mutch going as it lacks manuvrebility and flares unlike some strike aircrafts that sits at lower br’s, one thing that can be done is give it airspawn to start with, i know there is a thread on the forums thats spesifically for the Vautour’s due to the issues it has
(tecnically repeat from last time since nothing happend with it still being same br without airspawn)
Like I said the TKX (P) has specific point on the hull and one on the mantlet over the type 90.
Respectfully, ive survived more in the type 90, believe its composites are modelled better or layout is better.
It was stated by another which I agreed with that the TKX (P) loses some of the mobility for marginally better protection. overall not just the turret.
The issue is, and bear with me here, the Type 90s can see 10.3 where you have tanks such as the CR1 MK2 which barely has a 220 angle pen round (L23A1)
Or the soviet T72B’s which while good for the BR seriously cant hold a candle to the likes of the Type 90.
(I seen you mention the M1A1 as well further down, Im of hte opinion that both the M1A1, M1A1 HC and M1A2 should all be a little higher than they are.)
the M1A1 at 11.3 is better in almost every way than the Leopard 2PL bar in maybe optics yet is a lower BR.
Completely agree, think I mentioned it to someone else further up.
The tanks when going down absolutely dominate the BRs , M1A1, Type 90s .
(ztz99s) etc
but when going up the way, they get crushed, like a type 90 VS STRV 122+ is just silly, dont get me wrong you can do more against the STRV witha type 90 than say damage to a type 90 with a CR1 Mk2.
as always the games issues would be resolved with decompression
I have the TKX(P) and type 90s and genuinely believe they should be put to 11.7, they have too much effect on 10.3 games and absolutely are ruining that BR bracket.
Along iwth the M1A1, M1A2 (no tank with m829A2 should be seeing 10.7) ZTZ99’s etc ,
We need 12.7 BR for ground (at least) to give some bloody breathing room for these vehicles.
Because the shir 2 program was used as the basis for the CR1?
However that doesnt change the fact they reworked a lot of the internals, gunners sights etc for CR1.,
Though in the middle of both is a bit of a stretch, its essentially a worse armoured and fire capable CR1 Mk1 /mk2.
though at 10.0 it really should get the L23A1 round now.
well shir 2 is the basis for challenger but most of its literal parts are chieftain, and its armour protection is not much better than stillbrew in practice, and your hull is weaker.
the only thing going for it is mobility on par with everyone else’s vehicles at that BR. if its too much to be even with everyone else then idk what to tell ye
This I agree, however I think it should only get air spawn at its br or when it gets uptiered, if it gets an airspawn when the A-10C gets downtiered it’d be wayy to op
This is such a dumb take. You can use a 4.0 tank in a 6.0 lineup the same way you can use a 5.3 in a 6.0 lineup. Putting it a higher BR means it will be more expensive and give you less reward when killing a higher tier opponent.
That would be a massive nerf for the BR range. A 4.0 is cheap to spawn and rewards you more killing enemies a whole BR higher.
Still saying that “it is a chieftai hull” quite is disengenous when most part or modules of the hull that actually matters gameplaywise are changed from the chieftain and a far more closer to the challenger, in game it keeps having the same engine, hull armor and geometry, transmission, the same model for the radiator same fuel tanks placement and protection, as the challenger.
as much as the french has reload speed, it is not my fault that the enemy, a certain BIG 3 , always seems to be obliviouse and ignorent of their friendly dying right next to them…
as well as i will add these :
every good french line up has been destroyed (not OP or anything, just simply performing normaly, tier 3 and 4 are pure examples)
french tanks that have autoloader, usualy dont have armore to even get protection from a low penetrating shell… and the enemy always hit the volumetric parts, or down right shoot at the worst possible places to NOT KILL
france have autoloaders, yes, but the trade off compared to other nations, is that it does not have HE filler, takes a long time to replenish spent ammo ( up to 30+ sec per shell) , the enemy always are bad at playing the game because it faces mostly RU/USA/GER wich cant even play the game or angle their tanks correctly while having WAY SUPERIOR TANKS.
spalling nearly does not exist
you need to precisly aim exactly what you want to kill inside the tank to kill the tank, while other nation, simple point and click france - and to end, unfaire balance, unfair hate, unfair maps, all against france
remember this tank ?
i guarenty you that if germany did not recieved one, it woudev ben placed higher BR tha nthe puma from germany because france is litraly hated and handicaped the moment it was introduced in the game France Germany
500% it woudev been 3.7 or 4.0 if germany did not recieve it
I have played both T-55AM-1 and AMD-1 versions and I’m confident that they’ll do just fine at 9.0. Use the ATGM ammo for the best pen and post-pen damage and use the APFSDS for long-range shots where you need the edge in velocity.
Mode: Ground Realistic Battles Vehicle: ELC Bis BR Suggestion: 6.0 → 6.7 or even 7.0
Additional changes:
Vehicle role changing from tank destroyer to light vehicle
Adding scouting ability
This vehicle is amazing and very easily uptierable to 6.7 or even to 7.0, fulfilling the role of a light vehicle perfectly in every way. But the lack of scouting at the moment is really holding it back from unleashing its full potential.
Please don’t forget the other F-15s that are outside of the US tree. I get that things with good radar and speed can be strong CAP in GRB, but these planes, and the F-16 ADF, should have lower GRB ratings to provide for anti-air for lines-ups.
The Mk III is near identical to the Mk I, but somehow that justfies a BR difference of 0.7, instead of them being same BR. It is not even because they have any difference in armaments.
There is no reason to play this thing over the Stirling B Mk I. You get an aircraft that is 0,7 BR higher for no increase in flight performance, defensive or suspended armaments.
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