Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

Mode: Air Realistic Battles

Aircraft: Me 262 A-1

Change: 7.0 → 6.7

Reasoning:

The Me 262 is severely underpowered compared to almost all other 7.0 aircraft. It climbs worse, accelerates worse, often has worse top speed, it’s guns are all but unusable against jets, and it nearly always turns worse compared to every aircraft it faces, both at 7.0, it’s own tier, and especially in any level of uptier. As it is, it is a slightly buffed He 162 sitting a full BR higher, and people tend to consider the He 162 fairly tedious to fly as it is. It is also a mostly unavoidable part of the German tech tree, as all the way from 7.0-8.0 your options are mainly Me 262 variants, which all suffer against their respective opponents. Even the Jabo variant, which gets an airspawn, is still underpowered. With respect to this, the Me 262 A-1 should be moved to 6.7, where it will hopefully both fight a higher quantity of superprops and, naturally, avoid uptiers to 8.0.

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Is-2 (All models) deserve a .3 reduction in BR.

The ones at 6.7 are inferior to the American and German heavy tanks they share a BR with, The Is-2 has worse protection than most of them, A painfully long reload and below average mobility, Their only real strength is angle pen and HE filler but that’s not enough to justify being 6.7 with how the Tiger 2H and T34 out class it.

Even the T-44-122 is better than the Is-2 1944 because it at least has good mobility to get out of danger when reloading.

The BR-471D on the 1944 models is also not an upside over the base model, That shell only has 25mm of extra flat pen while having slightly worse high angle pen and worse HE filler than BR-471B, And as i recall, That shell was removed from the 1944 models in the past because they never had it, But it was re-added to justify moving it up? That +25mm of flat pen barely matters when the majority of tanks at that BR range don’t have flat armor, If it needs to be removed to justify lowering the Is-2’s then remove it.

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I find funny that the JaPz. K A2 and the SK-105A2 has way better gun handling, ammo, has good thernal imager quality and laser rangefinder (in a oscillating turret which is pretty uncommon).

Leopard 2A7V
Ground Realistic Battle
12.0–>12.3
fix its armor hole and give it its realistic D-tech armor, it is currently better than many 12.0 MBT, so it should be at least 0.3 br higher than 12.0 while also use this opportunity to fix its armor

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Lets not nerf any form of anti CAS maybe? Just lower the Type 81 to 11.0/10.7

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Crucially, it’s not that no one plays it, and thus no one cares about it, but likely that only people who like it play it, meaning only people who are good with it are playing it and skewing the statistics.

Chieftain MK3( Britain )
8.7–> 8.3
Extremely weak mobility, awkward armour, lacks a laser rangefinder, quite a long reload for the BR and the round (L15A5) is at best, average.

Leopard 2A7HU
Ground Realistic Battle
12.0–>12.3
fix its armor hole and give it its realistic D-tech armor, it is currently better than many 12.0 MBT, so it should be at least 0.3 br higher than 12.0 while also use this opportunity to fix its armor

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What?

I would agree, for all others, but the 2S6 is rather insane performance for 10.7. Given the closest in performance I can think of are all at 11.3/11.7

It goes up while VT1-2 still is underBRed lol

Lol, rip 8.7 no more linups before 10.0 i guess

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No it’s not, try using it on anything that moves past 5km and you’ll see.

Still no tank and plane decompression, only grb plane?

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Yep

If something has incorrect armaments, then it can be reported as a suggestion for consideration.

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Overall Feedback:
Honestly, most of the BR changes here look really good!

One Suggestion I’d Like to Add:

  • Mode: Ground RB
  • Vehicles: KV-1E (USSR) & KV-1B (Germany)

The Problem:
These two tanks are extremely strong for their BR. They feature exceptionally good armor—arguably better than the Tiger I in some aspects—and a solid gun. At 4.0, they face many 3.3 and 3.0 vehicles that simply can’t compete. Most of those lower-BR vehicles struggle to penetrate them, often only having one small weak spot to aim for. Even vehicles at 4.0 have a tough time dealing with them.

Suggested Change:
Increase the BR of both the KV-1E and KV-1B to at least 4.3, matching their current BR in Arcade Battles. This would align them with other similar vehicles like the KV-7 and KV-1S, which are also being moved to 4.3 and rightly so.

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Please consider reducing the BR of the Chieftain Mk.3. It’s way too slow and lacks a laser rangefinder and a good round to compensate, compared to the olifant mk1, which has an LRF and an APFSDS to make up for it being slow. and please consider adding an lrf to the chieftain mk5, as it had one irl.

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100% needed

Gaijin has had almost two years to do that and hasn’t. It’s time for it to go. You can’t even get community managers to acknowledge it.