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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Lvrbv 701
9.7 > 9.3
Reasoning: The Lvrbv 701 is severely outclassed by most other SPAAs at its BR, with its only advantage being range. However, it struggles to make use of said range, as it lacks any means of easily detecting aircraft. It is best used against helicopters, but at 9.7, it starts facing helicopters that can hover close to its maximum range. This wouldn’t be an issue if it carried a search radar or IR search, but having to visually identify targets makes it significantly harder to use. Additionally, it is entirely outranged by helicopters in any sort of uptier, which, at 9.7, is not uncommon.
When faced with planes, it once again suffers due to its inability to quickly spot them. The Lvrbv 701’s poor turret traverse and limited elevation angles make it ineffective against most aircraft it will face, as they either climb too high or stay too low and close to be targeted efficiently.
When compared to SPAAs at its BR it is mediocre at best, when compared to anything higher BR it is entirely obsolete. With several other SAMs already found at lower BRs, I do not believe lowering the Lvrbv 701’s BR will suddenly make it broken, simply slightly more useable. You will still have to rely on eyeballs mk1 to spot and engage targets.
Additionally, at 9.3 it would fit much nicer into a lineup, as currently the Strf 9040B is the only other 9.7 ground vehicle Sweden has access to, ignoring premiums.
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lol thanks
Amx m4 keep it at 6.7
Amx-13 keep it at 6.7
Amx-40 keep it at 9.7
You want to move these then decompress ground to 14.0
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The Russian bias award of the Battle Rating changes for April 2025 goes to the…(🥁) Ka-52 and MI-28NM staying at 12.0 while the EC-665 Tiger UHT goes to 12.3. They’re better, which is why they have higher kills per spawn and death according to statshark.
Finally, 13.0 for aircraft in GRB. Two BR changes too late but better late than never.
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more likely Type 122 (PLSS)
Streal-10 should eithere go down to 10.0 or get its 9S16/Flat Box-B pasive radar as right now its completely outmatched by better systems like 2S6 which is only .3 BR higer and OSA-AKM but less so
You have to do one vehicle per post otherwise they won’t look at it.
Air Realistic
Phantom FG.1/FGR.2
12.0–> 11.7
The british phantoms have upgraded engines at the cost of drag and weight. They also have a PD radar and are fitted with the AIM-9Gs and Skyflash (british AIM-7E-2s) They lack a HMS, Agile Eagle slats and the capability to carry napalm, and in a dogfight are noticeably worse than US phantoms, and have a worse RWR to top it off. The FGR.2 could carry the AIM-9L before the skyflash, so maybe the FGR.2 recieve the 9L and stay at 12.0 while the FG.1 moves to 11.7
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Air Realstic
Jaguar GR.1A
10.7–> 10.3/10.0
Upgraded version of the GR.1 that is outfitted with better engines and 60 countermeasures, with the ability to also carry a chaff pod (216 Large caliber). The GR.1A has no reason to be at 10.7 with 2 AIM-9Gs and lackluster flight performance, it bleeds speed incredibly quickly and takes a while to regain it. Carrying bombs, the plane is barely supersonic and struggles to get to bases first. The plane also has a very low rip speed.
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Air Realistic battles
Hunter F.6
9.7–> 9.3
Upgraded version of the Hunter F.1 with the ability to carry up to 4 SRAAM missiles.
The SRAAM missiles, although funny to use, have very limited useability and range. These missiles also sit on a platform that is subsonic and lacks countermeasures at 9.7. This leads to a not very fun experience and I think 9.3 is a much more suitable BR.
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Same/Lower BR than C1 Ariete?
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yes an moderate missile at now is only suit for 11.3,can’t imagine Type81C with = IR missile now move to 11.7 and suffering endless Kh29s and AGM65s
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F-111C (britain)
11.7–> 11.3
Pretty much the same as the F-111F (11.7) but has noticeably weaker engines and the plane bleeds speed a lot in a turn, so I am unable to find a reason why it sits at the same BR as the 111F
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Shouldve bought the battlepass comrade, youll have the m46
-Gaijin
Netz
Air RB: 12.7->12.3
Air Sim: 13.0 → 12.3
The Python 3 is not better then the AIM9L, it has more G’s but lower Flare ressistance, so the plane should be on the same BR then F-16A
Spacialy in Air Sim, it must face Fox3’s with only IR missles.
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i have to disagree, when i got it at a 75% discount i swore not to use the airspawn as a matter of honor; i found that it was still quite good without it, perfectly balanced even; the only reason it wasnt going higher in BR is because american players at this tier tend to be…ameriCANT…if you catch my drift. I say removing the air spawn and keeping it 4.0 is the best balance for it
F-104C(USA)
9.3–>9.7
The 104C is a 104A with 2 extra AIM-9Bs. the 104A is annoying at its current BR of 9.3, but it is a plane that can be killed relatively easily. the F-104C has 2 extra missiles and sits at the same BR, which simply doesn’t make sense to me.
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M1 Abrams
Mode: Ground RB / Ground AB
BR change: None.
Give the original Abrams the M833 round, the M774 pen and damage its pretty subpar to its peers at 10.7. Yes, the tank did use it. Besides there isn’t much difference in game between M774 and M833.
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Air Realistic battles
F-84F(GER)
8.3–> 8.0
A decently fast plane that is more than capable of taking out bases. However it has very bad flight performance and suffers because of that, forcing players to take a boom and zoom playstyle.
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