Vehicle: Kfir C.7
BR: no changes
Other changes: stock weapons as 2x AIM-9G and 2x AIM-9D/Shafrir 2
Not particularly bad, but the plane faces a painfully long stock grind. It may be slightly overtiered, but there are other 12.0 or even higher aircraft with questionable BR.
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F-89B
Air RB: 7.0>7.7.
It’s just too fast and has too good of flight performance to be at the same BR as the F-80A, Me-262s, and to be fighting props regularly.
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Vehicle: Phantom FG1/FGR2
BR: no changes
Other changes: stock weapons as 2xAIM-9D and 2xSkyflash DF, AIM-7E modifications removed
They are worse than F-4J/S but somewhat doable. However, most 12.0 aircrafts do face an excruciating stock grind. At least they dont need to research bombs before missiles.
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Vehicle: F-4J/S
BR: no changes
Other changes: stock weapons as 2xAIM-9D and 2xAIM-7E2(DF)
Being one of the better 12.0s does help out a ton. Still, considering how 11.0 to 13.0 matchmakers are, their stock grind are equally painful.
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Vehicle: MiG-23MLD
BR: 11.7 to 12.3
Other changes: R-73 as a researchable weapon, two installed on fuselage pylons; stock weapons as 2xR-24R or 2xR-60M and 2xR-13M1
The MLD with slats and an improved RWR is better than other floggers but not significantly. This change can make it play worthy compared to the premium ML. Plus it does have R-73s capable.
This thing should go up in BR, not down
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Having the 25t at 8.0 was already insulting, but the X13 to 7.0 is outrageous. What the hell were they thinking? France is only going to have 2 6.7 vehicles, what lineup can you make with that?
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Assuming you were using 3*1000kg GBUs (super low drag, GNSS and no drop speed limit), you can outspeed nerfed Mirage F1 and average IDS (non PGM ones). Still, way slower than any zuni phantom and F16A at the same BR (not even counting Su34 in full uptier). Just done a custom battle with friend to verify that. Obectively, you can’t “constantly be the first one reaching base”.
I didn’t ask for IRCCM missiles. The fact many other strike aircraft at your BR already had them (in some case, gen4 airframe plus IRCCM missiles).
Your claim, however even acknowledge that is not comparable to other dedicated fighters.
What’s your valid argument for its just too good to be 11.7, other than skill issue or it can constantly get bases?
In Air RB perspective, I fail to see any reasonable argument behind your claim.
What made you think moving the amx-13 with its terrible gun and strv 103c with terrible armor up in battle rating would be a good idea, are you guys ill?
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ikv 103 grb → 5.0 it would still pen everything
I already told you? But you willfully ignored it.
Crappy cannons
Crappy belt types
Crappy fuel max load
Crappy survivability
Crappy ammo load 90 rnds
Good acceleration
And good turn time between the speeds of 320-410 mph only other wise you become a brick.
In air especially it’s bad because you spend half the fuel getting to the battlefield.
Im sorry but 12.3?
Just nah man even in sim, they shouldn’t get r73 to justify a BR bump they dont need.
Surely you dont mean sim either ? The mld and ml arent that good in my limited experience
I mean this is the most random br changes weve seen for ages.
Tkx p to 11.7 but not the type 90s.
T55s all shifting up now theyre planned to be the same br as tanks such as the shot kal dalet, megachs and ofc th3 m60a3 tts.
Not including th3 likes or zm803 and such.
We need 12.7 min for ground rb now
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Dollar players often shows his death montage and on stream he seems just like a normal player despite me seeing him do well in some matches. Crazy how some people just assume most content creators get essentially bot player lobbies lol
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Ofc arb
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Dumbest post ever in this topic
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12.0 M2K is really bad idea when you compare to other 12.0s and makes OP even more if they gets 12.0 blankets.
An aircraft with a very decent flight model and a Magic II that works as x2 “I win buttons” should not have the same BR as Tornado F.3/ADVs or Navy Phantoms.
Rather it should be moved up to 12.7 even if they are missing MAWS.
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Thats even worse then no?
Ive got the mig23M rn and im 12k from the mld.but took a break from air rn.
The mld radar is cheeks, only working bellow 1500 meters at a specific angle to the ground for the mti mode.
It lacks a functional PD mode.
It has only 2 good radar missiles with four shambolic R60s
Why add R73s just to artificially fire its BR up?
I reckon without r73s it could possibly go to 12.0 right now but again it lacks a pd radar.
(If they make MTI like it used to be then with no other changes it should br 12.0)
Genuinely asking as ive never had a problem with the flogger no matter the model.
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I dont either, its bc i would drawn comparison to the BISON, which trades FM for HMD and R-27Rs which are much better(+RWR)
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Vehicle: Mirage F1C/F1CT
BR: no changes
Other changes: additonal 2x R.530 stock, R.530 modification removed
Most 11.7 or 12.0 fighter aircrafts should receive SARH on stock, or better IR AAM if possible.
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