Stop with the bullshit, tell me why it should stay at 6.7 then? Oh wait you can’t. It decimates early jets and late props and can still go pound for pound in its max BR of 7.7.
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su25sm3 ground rb 12.7→12.3
sm3 have no advantage to mirage 2000d rmv but have higher br
jh7a air rb 12.3→11.7
no pl8b no pl5e2 but such a high br
or just give irccm and stay 12.3
q5a q5l air rb 10.0→9.3 a5c 10.7→10.3
250-2 2 for 1 base nerf to 3 for 1
shenyang f5(mig-17_f5) air rb ground rb 9.3→9.0
it should be lower br then a mig-19 or mig-21
f5e(cn) f16blk15 mlu
should have aim9p4
tkxp ground rb 11.7 but add type10 apfsds
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tc-1l ground rb 10.3→9.7
it just worse then 9.7 il mim-72 but in a crazy 10.3 as 9m35m even higher then lav-ad
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You don’t think they have floppy guns? there is no mbt that can match the floppy gun of the AMX-30. the the BRENUS and B2 have identical gun handling.
I haven’t.
You never stated anything about the hull armour being different, just that the turret is weaker in general – other than the outer cheek armour:
In a full downtier (or even 10.7 downtier) though, Type 90’s might be more useful:
Not disagreeing with you here:
I think there needs to be further decompression at top tier and then move the M1A1, Type 90, and TKX (P) up to 11.7.
The problem is that they’re neither fit for 11.3 nor 11.7 (either it’s too good for the BR or too mediocre) at the moment.
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because gaijin is bad at decision making, but it doesn’t mean the f5c should make 9.3-10.0 unplayable too
Vehicle: T-64B
Gamemode: Ground RB
Change: 9.7 > 10.0
Reason: The T-64B has extremely good firepower and armor. In terms of firepower, it has exactly the same shell as the T-80B (BR 10.7), setting it apart from vehicles from other countries. Its body armor is also equal to that of the T-80B, and its turret armor is also excellent for BR9.7. Its maneuverability is also adequate, and I think BR 10.0 is appropriate.
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It’s funny that many who think Type90 and TKX are fair in 11.7 are the ones who cry on the forum because there’s no 650mm ammunition in their favorite tank from 11.3-12.0
Vehicle: Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
Gamemode: Ground AB RB
Change: 5.7 > 6.0
Reason: It has thicker frontal armor than the tree Teiger, making it difficult for other vehicles to penetrate this vehicle’s armor. Its maneuverability is not so great in forward movement, but extremely good in reverse, and its maneuverability is excellent.
Even including the fact that it does not have an APCR, I consider it to be in the same class as the Tiger E.
It has big 80mm weakpoints, that can even be penetrated from the front by some guns, but overall making it unable to angle. Its reverse speed is as fast as its forward speed, but still overall slow and sluggish, its turret is also slower than the normal tiger and it also still has the older type Drum cupola, so no.
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The T-72AV is not that good to warrant this.
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F-104G ITA be put at rank 7, its currently rank 6 BR 11.0, illogical-since all other F-104G of other nations are rank 7, and in the ITA ver its rank 6… fold it with F-104S
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It’s protection and geometry is basically the same as the challenger, the only thing that i see that is from the chieftain is the suspension, no sure that i would say that it is “between”
Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: EBR 1951
Change: 5.3 → 4.3
Reasoning:
Basically the same main gun as on the M24 Chaffee, same shells, same penetration.
Meanwhile, the M24 also reaches a top speed of 56km/h. With tracks, so it can maintain a higher speed on worse terrain too, with actual armor, low speed stab, a 50cal on the roof, while being at 3.7, which is the proper br for it.
So what the heck justifies the 5.3 br for the EBR 1951 ??? Its a 3.7 “tank” that can reach a higher top speed than the M24, under optimal conditions . But can be penetrated by a 50cal, has no low-speed stabilizer but an especially bouncy gun, worse off-road mobility, and no heavy machine gun.
The EBR 1951 loses to the M24 in every aspect but on-road top speed. Nothing justifies 5.3 for it, not even the .5 faster aced reload.
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XM-1 Chrysler 9.0 → 9.3
It is XM-1 (gm)'s clone but at lower battle rating. This month’s br change moves t55’s up to 9.0 and XM-1 is better than t55 in every aspect, so it’s a bit unfair that that XM-1 Chrysler stays at the same br.
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T55AMD-1
Keep it at 8.7, has no business at 9.0
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The only other non spaa and free tanks at 9.7 are the Vextra and the CV90. The vextra is basically a worse Rooikat or Centauro at a higher BR, already suffering from Gaijins “hatred” for France. So you’d essentially take a Cv90, a wheeled vehicle that gets a round considered decent for 8.7-9.0 and a glorified AMX-32(120) worse than most 9.7 tanks to 10.0, sounds like a great time for the french playerbase. What would be reasons to move the AMX-40 up to 10.0 anyway? Its similar to the Leo 2k but worse in almost every way exept for thermals and a blowout panel in the turret.
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The main reason Kfir is sitting in that BR is flight model, which is ways better than the F-5E, yet it is ridiculous to argue that it should be moved to a lower BR.
In an ideal world the F-5E and Kfir Canard should not have the same BR, but with the current BR compression that is not possible so it is better to stay with the current BR.
Top1 incompetent player comment i’ve ever seen. Looking at your massivly skill issue stats, the problem is that people like you have the right to comment on a topic like this.
Ah yess fugg japan even more