No way, it’s definitely the Fim-92, leagues above the rest
Think so ? the mirage F1 C 200 is a pretty great platform before the magic 2s are involved.
Don’t get mixed up with how it used to be, it was an absolute slab before, its pretty damn reliable now which is good.
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-14B
BR Change: 13.0 → 12.7
Reasoning:
it has worse radar and missiles than any other 13.0 plane.
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2x Magic I (So aim-9G level rear aspect IRs)
2x of the weakest SARH missiles of that BR
no true PD radar
a fairly poor RWR
Its got some weaknesses.
Id also call it an average FM, not great, but not weak either. Its biggest strength is the decent CM load, that carries it far more than I think most realise and why Id be hesitant below 11.0.
When compared with aircraft such as the F-4E and maybe a few like the Jaguars and F-5s. I think 11.0, maybe 11.3 would be the msot appropirate for it without the Magic IIs.
if it had half decent SARH missiles, then I could see it being higher, but its definetly not on par with a Mig-23ML/MLD without the IRCCM missiles and the non-PD R-530s
Vehicle: Mig-21 SPS-K
Air realistic battles
9.7->10.0
It’s nearly a harrier in terms of missile potency which is already strong but it’s supersonic which solves the harrier’s weakness/limitation. Sure you lose the gun to equip the missile flare loadout but it’s too good in downtiers just running around the map r60-ing you and it has flares if it gets caught off guard by an r60 or aim9g.
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Do you relize that the 23mm round despawns at 2400m while the pgz does at 3000m? so yeah your testing method is questionable at best, not sure how you got over a kilomiter of extra range on those 2 while on the sidam you got 200 meters more…
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i got a lead indicator and destroyed the heli, dont know more than that.
I usually dont even fire shilka outside of 1.5km unless i want to scare them off lol
I mean i dont usually fire much at much longer with any spaag, aside from the few ones without tracer
use ap belts, they reach further too. the game calculates the lead & stuff based on the first round in the belt.
it was not 3.5km, but 3km, i remembered incorrectly.
Buddy, they dont have a 3km range either
thats 2.6km and the target is going away, if the target was still it would display it still at 3.0km.
heres sidam for comparison
man i wish the pgz04 reached 4km lmao
Forgot to mention prior
A-7E 10.7 → 10.0 (for air, ground BR can remain as is)
It’s subsonic, loses all speed in a turn and doesn’t have very good armament. Yes it can bomb bases but it’ll be very slow doing so and won’t get to any bases before the rest of the team.
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At Strv 103, when the BR was 8.3, I wrote a bug report that the reload is actually 2.5 seconds according to the documents, to which the answer was that the reload is a balanced value and if it is reduced, the BR will be raised.
Since then, the BR of Strv 103 has been raised twice, but they cannot give the reload as it should be.
They change their boots in a jump and nothing more.
Not a mistake.
The reload speed is a balanced value (even for automatic loaders) and is adjusted at the discretion of the developer.
The developers know that these machines had a higher rate of fire.
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edit: took a better picture
i took the picture just as the heli despawned. it despawns on the test drive map after flying to the right and the respawns.
it actually reaches a farther than 4km, but i couldnt get any more distance in the test drive map.
if i had to quess, its ~4.5km against a still target.
much better reach than sidam or even zsu-23.
from the files.
““attackMaxDist”: 2500.0” the max range of the shilka is 2500m.
TBH even with magic ones the plane is still great, the guns are decent, not as bad as the 23mm on the soviets but not as good as say the 20s on the US planes.
the magic ones are still fantastic missiles.
I reckon without the magic 2’s it would be 11.7 easy days.
Its got a great top speed, good retention and has actually a decent radar to be fair, the MTi works on it really well.
The 530F’s are ass in ARB but ive had about half my kills in sim with them.
The RWR isnt actually that bad at all, if you know how to use it.
ive bet F18s with it in sim, 530F VS AIm7F.