For the F-15A in Avia RB, you also need to reduce the BR to 12.7, it is completely unplayable at its BR, you will be killed by FOX-3 from 40 km, and you with your AIM-7 Sparrows should fly almost point-blank to the planes.
They also suggest raising the BR for the Pantsir S1 to 12.3 - 12.7. So that it doesn’t hit players at 11.0. I can’t fly my phantoms at 11.0 because there is a Pantsir that knocks me down at any distance.
They nerfed AMX M4 and AMX 13 just for selling the French M47 lol
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To what BR?
Then what of F-4C?
So it can be unbeatable to all 11.7-12.3 jets constantly?
It isn’t. I play the F-15J regularly.
if this happens to you, it would happen to you in any jet.
Vehicles are balanced via stats and abilities…
Any low tier good tank for that matter should up in br then eh?
I’m a new player (i begin to play actively middle of january) i’m French and i go to French tech tree i’m actualy at 9.7 and i’m chocked by this post.
At 6.7 i do good think with AMX13 and AMXM4 but my best with the M26 Pershing … I remember i switch to 5.3 to 6.7 directilly because no good transition line up … The transition is hard for new player experienced player kill you at much long range and so much véhicule are armored the french advantage is a little bit speed and autoloader but if you up at 7.0 i don’t think its good at 8.0 the technological gap be so hard …
For the AMX40 actually i’m trouble for the grind of rang 8 i have only 2 choice take my 3 9.7 and (grind/buy) the CV9035NL and make a 9.7 line for unlock first Leclerc or farm the leo2 of NL and go to 10.7 with 3 9.7 … Make the AMX40 at 10.0 don’t resolve the problem maybe is it strong at 9.7 but you are like all french tank in paper if you make a mistake you be kill instantly and the Vextra can’t deal properlie at up tier the APFSDS do a lot of non pen or bounce specially vs russian tank …
I up israel too with my french now at 9.3 the two merkava are good but not god mod i never played vs 8.3 i always at 9.7 or 10.0 or 10.3, i planned too played then with the sabra at 9.7 => future 10.0 …the namer i don’t know never played him but i planned too play it with merkava 3 11.3 don’t change something, but i planned too have Kurnass 2000 for CAS at 11.3 and you would like too uped him at 11.7 …
I’m a little bit disapointed some change are possibly justified but before do this you need too think about new player like me, we have so many difficulties too make line up with France so much gap between the BR and don’t have so many rang 7 for grind the Rank 8 and with israel you need too give proper SPAA with radar (can’t believe we have no radar at top tier …) the country as know too have Iron Dome but in game we have no spaa with radar … and you up plane …
Well sorry for my english not my mother tongue good game and i hope somebody read me ^^
Ioreckz
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That’s very much not the case. Ofc stats and abilities are the most important metric when deciding vehicle’s BR, but there are cases where it isn’t enough.
Very good example of that was the recent F-14 IRIAF BR increase. Was the vehicle inherently overpowered at it’s BR of 12.7? No, it wasn’t. Good player could avoid it’s missiles and certain planes could counter it. But it had certain mechanics making it extremely unfun to go up against and if you were in a lower BR aircraft without proper countermeasures, you were simply screwed. And how did it end up? Under the pressure of playerbase it was brought up to 13.0 where it’s just food for top tier planes. Is it balanced now? No. Was is balanced earlier? No, it wasn’t and likely never will unless BR decompression happens.
This is the very same situation KV-1E is in. It’s a generally overperforming vehicle, but to an acceptable extent. But what makes it stand out are toxic and opressive mechanics, which make certain vehicles, certain parts of playerbase or certain configurations of vehicles (stock) be at a much bigger disadvantage while facing it than they would be in case of any other tank in the game.
Absolutely not, hell, even tanks with exceptional armor don’t necesarilly need to go up. Like Churchill AVRE is also incredibly tough to destroy for new players and remains at 2.7. Should it go up? No.
The problem with KV-1E is that it combines being extremely easy to play, overperforming, being low tier and non new player friendly mechanics into one thing. It requires incomparably more effort on the side of the enemy than it does on the side of the player playing it, the very exact situation the F-14 IRIAF was in if you skip the being low tier part. And i personally believe KV-1E deserves the same treatment.
The game’s main goal is to be fun. If a single vehicle can go up and just throw that out of the window by just appearing in the match, it deserves to be nerfed.
I am an experienced player myself, i would say well above average for this playerbase. I have hundreds of battles in this tank and i perfectly know how to counter it. Yet i still don’t find facing it fun at all. It’s just how it is designed and there is nothing that can be done about that.
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I don’t have that many problems killing the KV-1E unless they wiggle, which makes any of those tanks impossible to kill, including many USA tanks.
The IS-6 and jumbo were moved up to be more fair based on their great stats.
The IS6 is no longer in that boat.
The KV-1 Zis was brought up to be more in line with the German 5.0 Kv, and the 1942 in the Sweden tree, which is wild because the turret armor is far better on the other two.
There’s a lot of vehicles that’s over preform that never see br changes, stats wise we don’t know what gaijin has, it’s probably similar to the king Tiger sla, at about an average of 2.0~
I expect my heavy tank to be a heavy… tank? And have some capabilities in 4.3, 4.7, and 5.0.
In my experience medium tanks definitely can and usually do better.
Are they? I don’t think so. The biggest drawback of the AMX-50-100 and Lorraine is the smaller magazine size and slower magazine replenishment, but the higher penetration is a big bonus because you’re no longer completely countered by T-55s and can penetrate the turret face
Honestly giving them APCR would be enough I think. It would let you attack the turret face of the T-55.
Everyone who has more than 2 braincells will wiggle in their KV-1. That’s like the most basic of basics.
from 4.7 to 5.3 and from 6.7 to 7.3? Absolutely. From 5.3 to 5.7 and from 7.3 to 7.7? Not so much.
This is not justification for KV-1E to not get nerfed.
And will it magically turn into a light tank once it gets to 4.3? i don’t think so.
Do you think 75 jumbo has any capabilities at 6.7? 76 jumbo at 7.3? Maus, IS-4M or IS-6 at 8.7? Some heavy tanks just can’t be balanced perfectly in current BR system. That’s a harsh reality.
KV-1E does more than excellent in 4.7 battles, since matchmaking limits down the number of top tier tanks in each team so most of the tanks you come up against are from 3.7 - 4.3 BR range. Once you get into 5.0 battle it definitely gets way harsher, but the tank is still more than playable. There aren’t that many tanks at 5.0 that you can’t deal with, certainly much less than 3.0 tanks that can’t deal with you if you happen to get a good matchmaking.
There are no reasons for it not to go up.
okay, the japanese lineup does not make too much since since at 11.3 it’s a pretty anemic lineup as is and without the thailand vehicles to reinforce the tree (yet) i don’t see how it would be fine until the line is added.
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The brs of heavy tanks all seem quite well balance.
I don’t I’m not a scumbag.
Ah yeeeees, let’s nerf heavily armored tank, so the only feature will become meaningless
What’s wrong with this community wanting to make everything bland and useless slop.
Get good
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It won’t become meaningless from a simple 0.3 BR increase. 1E/B has armor strong enough to stop German long 75/ US long 76 if angled properly. And these guns or ones weaker or very similar to them are by far the most prevalent in this BR range.
It won’t become bland, nor useless from 0.3 BR increase.
Just saying, i have 3.5 K/D in the Russian KV-1E and over 4 K/D in German KV-1B. You either have to admit i am a good player, or that these tanks are so overpowered that they got these stats themselves for me. Either of those statements will contradict what you have said.
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Those cannons still can pen if angled.
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You are a good player. But thanks for proving my “German KV is better” theory. But based on your “wiggling” antics I’m not so sure if it’s skill or abuse of bad game mechanics
Mode: Air Arcade Battles
Aircraft: A2D-1 (USA)
Change: 9.0 → 8.0
Reasoning: The airplane doesn’t have any capabilities to face even 9.0, not talking about 10.3.
It constantly matched against Mig-21 with radar guided missiles and other mach2 aircraft.
Only by firing weakspots and can’t one shot even in those weakspots most of the time which is perfectly reasonable. That’s how heavy tanks should work. In fact they can only pen the exact same area the 75mm you can find on the sherman can as well. The difference is only visible when you unangle your tank, but if you do so, you deserve to get penned anyway.
It proves nothing. It’s just a 0,5 K/D difference in a 6 times smaller sample. (i have 700 games in 1E and 100 in 1B) I also got 1B over a year after 1E and since it’s basically the same tank i already knew how to play it from the get go, which wasn’t the case for 1E. Thus the stat difference is negligible.
? Wiggling is a basic game mechanic, which comes from the very fact that War Thunder is a game, not reality. Ofc you wouldn’t wiggle a tank as a real crewmember inside of it, but when it’s just a matter of pressing a button or two, it’s only a natural thing to do so. When i play a tank i will use it to it’s strenghts, i won’t refuse to use my tanks in a better way, just because i wouldn’t do that as a tank driver in real life. There is nothing bad, nor unfair about wiggling.
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If you knew anything about the game, you would know that 3.39 K/D is not a result average player will get with an average tank.
An average result for an average player with an average tank is around 1 K/D.
So yet again you either proved the tank is overpowered, or you just underestimate your own skill :)
The “smart” moderator, who removes my posts and leaves every single other post engaging with my discussion - DM me, becasue i want to know what is your problem with me
My post condemning that fals flagging has just been flagged as well. Ironic.
Well, anyway, these posts now will 100% be treated as offtopic and removed again. If you want to avoid that, go back to the topic