I would not at all want the Leopard 2K to be back down to 9.7. Dealing with that thing at 9.7 was absolutely dreadful.
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Exactly, I have no clue why the 2d is higher than the others, and the Namer take 1 hit to the turret and it’s completely defenseless besides spotting.
flakrakrad and other similar spaa’s should be moved down.
SPAA’s like the flakrakrad and ITO should be moved down to 11.3 or 11.0, this is because they lack features like datalink and they also have shorter ranges by about 7-8 km compared to the pantsir that is only 0.3 BR higher
the F4F early seems to be better than the J35D in multiple ways. F4F gets agile eagle, better overall armament options , and is faster.
France has no viable lineup between 9.3 and 12.0 if the AMX-40 is moved to 10.0, America has no viable lineup between 10.3 and 11.3/11.7, often times being the next vehicle in line. The french 7th rank is just useless suffering, the american 7th rank is the base and preperation for top tier.
J35D also got multiple flight model nerfs. If the Early gets nerfed equally as hard in performance than it will probably go down, realistically though i doubt it will happen, who knows gaijin may pyt it down if more people play it.
usa 76 and pz iv for example go straight tru the frontplate and turret.
you definedly need to angle it to survive anything but the weakest of cannons.
you can angle a kv-1b/e to be practically immune even against tigers.
who uses apcr, i just rock the aphe and regularly rack 5-8 kill games in it, its my go to to unlock any new rank 1-3 vehicle they add to the brit tree.
Hi, I really think that all of the 8.7 br changes are going to destroy the game. The 8.7 br is one of the best battle ratings in the game and having stable lineups in this battle rating helps to actually play the game, not soullessly grind it. I think that making those br changes (moving 8.7 vehicles to 9.0) would destroy the game. This is because T55AM1, T55AMD or strv 103C have early darts and they won’t be able to fight with many of the top tier vehicles. I really think that 8.7 tanks should not be moved up to 9.0. It’s just a bad decision that will make people even more tired of this game.
Saying french players are good does not justify increasing its BR, by that logic it might aswell be 12.0. This reasoning is why france suffers in the first place.
I have absolutely no idea why they moved it to 11.7 in GRB. Like Netz is just 1 step higher than it…
Well if it was doing way better than other 9.7 tanks then i deserves to move up, I know it isn’t a great mentality but it is what it is, it sucked with the abram’s but im sure french players will adapt.
Yes, 10.0 planes definitely need to go against VT-1s lmao.
10.7 abrams, 10.3 stryker, 10.0 lav ad/xm975, 10.3 120s, 10.3 a-10 late, 10.7 f-4j. this is very much a viable lineup for 10.7, its actually pretty stacked. every vehicle is excellent in its own way in this lineup.
amx-40 going to 10.0 isnt really going to change anything, 10.0 never sees full uptiers, because there is almost no 11.0 vehicles ingame(basically only china has a lineup there). you can still bring the same exact vehicles from 9.7, but with worse downtiers.
so you prefer “lets ruin multiple vehicles for the sake of one”?
this isnt really applicable in this case as amx-40 isnt really that opressive, but this sentiment can be very toxic.
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Bruh I’m playing it myself they are speedy and gave good firerate thats the meta these days
8.7 was one of the “best” BRs because they face non stabilized 7.7-8.3 tanks with their stabilizer, lasers & apfsds. 7.7 most tanks have none of the three and never even had a chance to start with. t55am1/amd are not going to struggle that much against 10.0 as 7.7 struggled against them.
breaking the op 8.7 lineups is one of the best changes ive seen gaijin ever suggest.
7.7-9.3 is definedly the most compressed br bracket atm and they need to decompress it upwards and this is a great start.
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Begleitpanzer 57
Current 9.3 change it to 9.7 or 10.0
Reason: the Begleitpanzer 57 gets a fully stabelized 57 mm auto cannon that fires APCBC / HE-VT every 0.3 sec ( 0.2 sec faster than 2s36, 0.6 faster than Rdf/lt) it also get a TOW/ I-TOW ATGM that acts like a backup if the auto cannon fails to kill. The Begleitpanzer 57 also gets NVD, laser rangefinder and drone. This means is like a 2s38 that trades APFSDS for a I-TOW (the APCBC works just fine) just at a full br lower, and remember to 2s38 is aleredy very good at 10.3. The Begleitpanzer curently sit at 9.3 wich is a br with a lot of light tanks that auto cannons can destroy with ease. In a downtier it can also face tanks like the M551, M60 AOS, AMX-30 ACRA or Type 74 that just a few tank that the Begleitpanzer shouldn’t be able to face. And its not like getting 8.3 games are uncommon becuase of popular tank like the Turm 3 or T-55A
I can also back this up from personal experience, i curently have a 4-1 kd with it and most of my friends showed me that they also had very good Kd Ratio even one of my friends that is only level 26 and has less than 130 hours play time rushed to the 9.3 line up and he has a Kd ratio of 2.6-1 againt players that probably are way better than him.
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Type 81(c):
Proposed BR 11.7 → 11.3 or 11.0
Reason: This is a IR missile truck with no radar, no guns, and no ability to fight anything past 8 km. There is no lineup for the vehicle, and at 11.7 its basically facing top tier every battle. I would like to reiterate this is a truck with big IR missiles on it that has no radar, horrible thermals, and no guns. You can’t defend yourself on the ground, and the vehicle basically can only engage enemies in a 1-8 km range, but thats not the main problem. You have no way of detecting aircraft unless you actively scan the sky manually, which means that your useless if there are clouds or if visibility is bad. It also means you need high keen vision to see planes. I’ve found more luck swinging around the seeker head to try and accidently lock planes than actually looking around. This is no where near the adats or any top tier AA, and it has no chance of surviving in the top tier environment where planes are killing you from multiple km’s away.
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Mode: Air RB
Vehicle: The Yak 41
Change: ditto. R-73s in exchange for keeping its current BR