Reasoning: The F-4E Phantom gets all the advantages of an F-4E platform in game. It gets Agile eagle upgrade, AIM-7E-2 missiles with better performance and CW seeker, guided bombs, guided AGMs, vast arsenal of dumb munitions, digital RWR. This is set at the same low BR of an F-4EJ which lacks behind in many ways compared to the F-4E. The other planes at 10.7 are also inferior compared to the F-4E (like F-104s). F-4E should be placed at a one step higher battle rating.
The signature weapon of the tomcats were always more potent in simulator battles compared to realistic battles (Even before multi pathing nerf). The limited situational awareness and limitations of first person game-play makes it harder to counter the phoenixes in the same way as ARB. Not to mention the lack of capable counter vehicles to F-14A.
I still remember when F-14As reigned supreme in simulator battles when it was at 11.7. It’s only real competition was the Mirage-2000S4/5 and they’d often be on the same side.
I request the SB BR placement of F-14A and other tomcat variants to reflect RB BRs.
F-14B eliminates the disadvantages of the F-14A which are engines, low countermeasures, limited RWR and rear aspect missiles. ARH carriers will always be at an advantage over SARH carriers in simulator battles and the F-14B does not face any ARH carriers at 12.7 and below.
This plane does not sacrifice anything, it has good radar, missiles and flight performance. This is under tiered at 12.7.
I request the battle rating to be adjusted to be the same as RB battle rating.
amx13 to 7.0, with only 200mm pen, great idea gaijin, time to give them apds then.
wyvern 4.7 can go straight (back) up to 5.0 where it belongs, since it’s buff it’s an extremely potent fighter.
q5 a/l 10.0 with no missiles, and subpar performance for their br, why?
h34 to 8.0, which one? The US, the French, both?
the rockets moved at t1 for hueys is a great addition.
Fakour-90s need no introduction, they are the one of the best ARH missiles below 13.0. They are fast (gives very little room to react), maneuver well (cannot be dodged kinetically), have very long range (rivals R-27ER). These missiles are set on the tomcat air-frame which is one of the best air-frames below 13.0. This plane is under tiered at 12.7.
I request to adjust the BR of this plane to be as same as the RB BR.
With the KV-1S moving up it makes no sense for these to remain at such an atrociously low BR, and club any match which they are present in and still perform very good in uptiers
This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
F-14B needs to get it’s deserved AIM-9M.
It was uptiered to 13.0 in Air RB, where most counterparts do have IRCCM missiles
Especially considering how much BOLs are underperforming
This strike aircraft only gets 4 IR Missiles (non-IRCCM) while the fighters at same BR get SARH / ARH + IRCCM IR missiles.
Furthermore, plane isn’t fast enough to outrun fighters, gun placement is awkward to get used to. This plane simply doesn’t make sense at 12.3 against fighters with much superior flight performance and armaments.
This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
its beyond stupid how bad the situation is
the changes to Mohawk and Marne are fair ones, but at the same time it creates the ridiculous situation where a WW1 escort sloop is now just 1.0 below a 1940s destroyer designed with cruiser duties in mind