No? There are plenty of tanks that can pen both, I’ve gone over this before,
Go check out the whole list
Would it be a worse offender than the 12.3 MiG 21 Bison with its R-73, R-21R and R-21T1 loadout?
i get that compression is a huge issue, but keep in mind that the flight model is still nerfed heavily, and at 12.7 it meets some real monsters in uptiers that just hopelessly outperform it.
I would prefer an FM un-nerf, historical loadout, and 12.7, but that’s more of a suggestion than a br change request.
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I’m fairly sure I already did in that thread, just move the ARL-44 up too if you think it’s so good.
There is just zero justification for the Kv-1E/B to be 4.0. They have incredibly good armour, acceptable mobility/gun handling, and weak gun, with incredibly good one shot potential. Ffs a sherman can’t even pen the sides of them in some parts unless its flat on, and Sherman’s are excellent tanks. That’s also ignoring the fact that angling makes you nearly invulnerable to anything but a TD with a powerful gun.
Look at my stats in the E, and you’ll see that it has a 90% winrate, and 4:1+ KD. Nothing else I own even comes close, and anything that does is another notorious seal clubbing vehicle.
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Yeah, confirmation here, the first 4030/3, AKA the Shir 2, that was built was in 1977, the program was canned in 1979, 6 years before L23 entered service in 1985.
MiG-29 flight model is almost perfectly accurate to the manual.
Yes. It has much better flight performance and a better loadout. It is objectively better than the Bison with the config you suggested, and it’s BR should reflect that.
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A R-72R1+R-73 MiG-29A should be fine at 12.7, and tbf, id felt the 9.13 and DDR 9.12A should be the same
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- The B is better since it doesn’t face German guns.
- The ARL is lower br and arguably better.
- If it were to go up in br, it would need a better shell. It already can see Vk-30s and can’t do anything to them frontally
What is an R72?
My IS-2, IS3, 6, and 4, T-10A all cannot pen a maus except point blank side on.
This is not the same case with the KV-1E or B many tanks can kill both. If one of these is “better” it’s the B as it doesn’t have to face German guns.
So we can’t move up the ARL too then? Terrible argument lmao
And it wouldn’t be a problem to give it the solid shot other KV-1s have.
That’s an issue with the Vk 3002 being undertiered.
You listed an overteired 6.7, and 3 other tanks that outperform the maus in several ways, such as with a better armour layout or mobility. The Is-2 and 3 are also at a lower BR.
The same vehicle shouldn’t get a lower BR just because it in a different tree.
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I mean R27
Sherman II from 3.7 to 3.3.
Remove ahistorical late-war American APCR round.
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The amount of people who seem to think this is crazy… Sherman II for example.
Pretty sure the ARL has a far better gun
Ok just completely ignore what I said then
3 other tanks that out preform the maus? lol okayyyy if you say so.
IS-3 not even close.
IS-4 still worse than a maus but closer.
t-10A is pretty much a semi stabalized maus butt with worse armor.
XM-1 needs to be either lowered in BR or have its round changed to M774 since you all seriously gimped it using a false shell performance report.
Fix Merkava Tank armor or lower them all to 11.3 BR.
How is the tank with the best crew survival rate in real life such a mess in game.