Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: F16 AM
Change: 13.7 → 13.3
Reasoning: Same situation as OCU but with more countermeasure, Why is it in the same BR as F16C Block 50? Since it has everything worse than Block 50 without hmd zzz
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Vehicle: T62
Gamemode: , Ground Arcade , Ground Realistic
BR Change: 8.7 —> 9.0
Reason
1- tank of ww2 of 7.7 do not need too see this monster
2 blunders which already exist don’t make another blunder good.
I am well aware and understand how you tomcat-enjoyers love tomcat, and it now has a terrible time against the F-15E
But, sending it down to 12.7 is making it dominate everything again and makes 11.7-12.7 dead.
bc full uptier match (12.7-13.7) does not happen much because there are just too many of 14.0BR jets, which magnet everything below.
I know the current F-14A IRIAF is meh now.
But sadly, keeping a single plane dead is better than keeping the whole BR radius dead.
We need something better than ‘just send it back to 12.7’ for the solution.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: F104 S and F104 S TAF
Change: 11.3→ 11.0
Reasoning: This plane is by far the worst plane in the game after the nerfs, at least reduce its BR so it can try to be playable.
4 Likes
Mode: Realistic Battles
Vehicle: AMX40
BR Change: 10.0-> 9.7(No Change)
Reasoning: AMX 40 has no armor nor penetration(394mm is almost the lowest) in BR 10.0, espscially when it’s in uptiere battles. Furthremore, this disintegrate the French 9.7 lineup, resulting the four only French vehicles in its VII rank distributed in 3 different BRs, which is very unreasonable.
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The Fox after the turret nerf going up seems very unneccesary and the FV4030/3 going up makes the rapier going down pointless and removes any reason to buy the FV4030/3 being there’s no decent line up for it at 10.0 and 0.3 of a BR higher is much better vehicles
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: F104S.ASA
Change: 12.0→ 11.7 or 11.3
Reasoning: this f104 is only 0.3 br away from a f16A, that’s crazy
7 Likes
I understand. I’m not saying the Viggen D21 should be 13.0. I’m just saying it’s very workable with what it has, and its playstyle can’t be compared to the F-14 IRIAF’s, especially when it comes to how viable it is.
I would like to see the following vehicles increased in BR (in all modes) to follow the long ago increase in vehicles around the ~5.0-7.0 BR’s. All these vehicles easily bully their competition and are especially unfair against the majority of 2.3-3.0 BR vehicles. But because they mostly face eachother its hard to see that they overperform as they don’t overperform against eachother. Playing many other vehicles around their BR feels like handicapping yourself.
M4A1
M4
M4A2
M24
T-34 (1940)
T-34 (1941)
T-34 (1942)
T-34E STZ
KV-1 (L-11)
KV-1B
KV-1E
Pz.4 F2
Pz.4 G
Pz.4 H
ARL-44 (ACL)
Also furthering this decompression above 7.3 would be nice to see too.
AMX-40 - keep at 9.7
The AMX-40 does not have the required stats to be at 10.0.
Its gun handling, armour(lack thereof) and gunner’s sight would make it frustrating to play in uptiers, even with the tank’s exceptional mobility. Compared to other vehicles at this battle rating(Leopard 2K, Leopard 2AV etc.), the AMX-40 would be underwhelming. This would also make the somewhat recently fleshed out 9.7 lineup not nearly as viable.
Out of all the presented changes, this one is the most unjustified to me.
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Why isn’t Sherman II being lowered to 3.3. It’s just a M4A1 Sherman with a useless APCR
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“BuT YOu HaVE ApcR!!!”
:/
Kurnass 2000 (12.3), JH-7A (12.3), EJ Kai (12.3), Harrier GR.7 (12.3.), Bison (12.3), F-16A(12.3) vs. AMRAAM capable F-16 with HMS?
You know what, sure. Lets go get em bois
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: kfir C7 (this is the last one I send today I promise)
Change: 12.0 → 11.7
Reasoning: a mirage 5 with canards and f4 engine, 0.3 br away from the f16A, not counting its 36 countermeasures and without radar.
If f5 exists with python 3 in 11.3 kfir c7 can exist in 11.7.
but for this change to happen the kfir c2 has to go to the 11 l.3 together with the f5FCU
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I am saying the same thing about Iranian tomcat. It’s game play is all about early game presence and it does it well. It could use extra 2 fakours (i made a post asking for this during last BR change but it went unnoticed) to sustain at up tiers but it doesn’t need to be brought down in BR any further.
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Gaijin, please do something about the M60A3 in the China tree. It is currently the same BR (in all modes) as the US equivalent, except it has no ERA and, more importantly, no M774 shot. So either lower the BR or give it the same ammo options.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Plane:Kurnass 2000
Br change: 12.3>12.0
Reasoning: It’s a Phantom with 6 Python-3s, extra flares and no radar missiles .3 higher than another Phantom with 4 decent IR missiles, 4 decent radar missiles and less flares. Python-3s are good non-IRCCM missiles and more flares are nice, but since it’s missing radar missiles, it has no right to be 12.3.
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its basically a leo 1 l/44 but with a trolly hull that bounces rounds
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To add to your comment there’s also no lineup available at 8.0 for it to work with so you either drag up your 7.7s into 9.0 or drag it up to 8.3 which is a solid lineup but there’s not much of a reason to play it since the ZA-35/Warrior/Falcon pretty much do what it can but better.
Ground Realistic Battles, XM8. 9.7 → 10.0
Gets M833
Historical change, the vehicle itself was introduced after the CCVL (IRL) and should get the M833 – which was initially denied as it was considered a balance value on the bug report site: Community Bug Reporting System
Gaijin states on the CCVL devblog:
The CCVL is the direct ancestor of the AGS, VFM 5 and XM8 light tanks already known to War Thunder tankers. The light chassis gains quite a high power-to-weight ratio, allowing the tank to perfectly overcome off-road terrain, climb hills, and quickly get up to maximum speed.
If the change should occur, the XM8 should swap BR and Ammo with the CCVL so there is not essentially two of the same vehicle.
Both vehicles are also missing functional blow-out panels (credit: Apollo_1641)
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