I don’t think 9.0s can counter Aim-9Ls when getting third party’d. Of course, you could say that you should be careful of your surroundings and try not to fight 1v1s when you know an AIM-9L slinger is around, but then that’s just too easy for the AIM-9L slinger.
I’d rather have Aim-9L slingers, like the A-10A (L), get slapped by supersonics, as they aren’t suppose to be flying in air RB in the first place.
Sure, it’s a multifunctional multipurpose autocannon so it can deal with helicopters and unskilled plane pilots, but the ready rack is quite limiting against tanks, especially against several tanks, the bad mobility and limited gun depression mixed with a centrally mounted turret limit where you can engage. You’re forced to more dangerous positions since you can’t hull-down in many places.
Well, yes. That is the trade-off for what it can do against air targets.
Unskilled plane pilots, sure, but even then, depends on the plane we’re talking about.
I’m pretty sure an experienced aardvark player would struggle to kill 2S38s (especially if they don’t know where they are) reliably.
Most of the times, a10 are usually pretty isolated from their teams considering how slow they are, they are priority target for me as leaving them alone isn’t an options either as they will drain your tickets and 9Ls most of your team.
Honestly valid take, maybe for the A-10A(Premium) keep it 10.0 but remove the 2 9Ls for 4 9Js? It will diminish its capabilities in ARB yes but It would allow it to not get slammed by supersonics but still be effective, the A-10A(L) could go up to 10.7 yes as it would make sense for it with its 4 9Ls and 65Ds
That is true. But again, if they aren’t dealt with early-on ( and you can obviously have multiple A-10s near each other), then you’re going to have to face them while the two teams dogfight at the center, which can be really difficult to manage without countermeasures.
Also lets talk about the fact that the MiG-15bis ISH is a lower BR with better weaponry, Honestly its one of the best planes I’ve used, it should NOT be 8.3 let alone 8.0 it will RUIN the 7.0 BRs
Just gonna warn you, you could argue the most blatantly obvious of facts and Alvis will just ignore you. The guy tried to say the SKR-7 had gone up in BR in the last BR changes, and its rockets only had a range of 1,500 metres. When I presented him with the last BR Changes (January) and lo and behold, it didn’t go up, he accused me of “Gaslighting the WT Community” when that was precisely what he was doing… intentional or not he was incorrect and I pulled him up on it.
Doesnt matter if they like them, it matters if they try to find ways to play it if it were to happen, because the A-10 even without 9Ls is a very good vehicle from my experience
I mean at 10.0 most jet should have cm alr, if not bring some rockets and if that doesn’t work still then 9bs or r3s are pretty reliable as shooting down 9Ls. + Most subsonic got moved down alr so there shouldn’t be an issue. Again this is from my own experience so others may differ.
The disadvantage of not being able to do anything about planes also makes it into an advantage that they aren’t your problem, you aren’t juggling roles.
I find 2S38 struggles against pilots doing even mild evasion at distances above say 2km. Planes have to actively try to die to you.
It’s not like a M247 which spits 5 proxy shells a second with basically 0 overheat. (Also 260g of filler in the SAPHEI shell so you can overpressure kill even tanks like T-35 with a single shell.)
Having to be both light tank and SPAA whilst not really succeeding at either is kind of bad, the BR suffers.
Except having the ability to defend yourself when a plane is actively trying to bomb is a good thing
And uh last time i checked, plane can kills ground so they are still your problem.
I mean yes but I think what Trista is saying is players end up playing the 2S38, see its dual purpose, try to be jack of all trades for their team and become master at none. Thereby making them less effective because they haven’t learnt how best to conduct, say, Air Defence.
At least that’s what I interpret him to be saying, I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’ve been too liberal with his words.