The average BR of the game mode is 8.11, and these are the only 9.7 vehicles in the mode.
The AGS is now 11.0 and should obviously be removed.
The two helicopters carry 8x 4km TOW-2s and can frequently dominate the match, especially now the QN506 is removed. NATO has 2 radar guided proxy SPAA to counter helicopters from the ground, China only has the radar-less WZ305… hitting a helicopter at 4km is impossible.
Chinese/Russian helicopters are limited to only 4 ATGMs at 9_2. NATO helicopters have 4, 6 and 8 ATGM loadouts.
A few players who favour the BO in 9_2 frequently attain 8-10+ kills every game since you can quickly shoot 8 ATGMs into spawn early game before reloading.
The other German BOs are only in 10_2 despite being the same BR. (Additionally the BO 105 CB-2 should be in Rank 6 with the other 9.7 Helicopters, not Rank 5)
You could also replace the HKP9A with the HKP9AFC since a 4 missile loadout + thermals makes it comparable to the Z-11WA despite the differences in BR.
Not 100% sure the Weisel should be removed, but it would be the last 9.7 vehicle in the mode if not.
So according to these proposed changes, the Spitfire Mk 24, Kikka, and F3D-1 could face a mig-15 or F-86A-5. Wow, that will be the death of the Spitfire, maybe the kikka has a chance (maybe). Why not have a poll that allows votes for each plane, instead of using just comments. For example, it could ask "should the Mig-15 go up 0.3, go down 0.3 or remain the same BR?
Along with many other BR changes that could come with Air RB, you should consider moving these forgotten planes:
G91YS from 9.7 > 9.3
G91Y - 9.3 > 8.7
(US) F100D - 9.3 > 9.0
(FR) F100D - 9.3 > 8.7
Hunter F1 - 9.0 > 8.7
Hunter F6 - 9.3 > 9.0
Decompressing higher BR by compressing lower BR is -and always was- a bad idea. Increase Air BRs to 15 and rebalance/decompress accordingly. Same for Ground RB. While compression is not as severe, increasing to 14 would be beneficial.
Additionally: (all based on current BR ranges and RB)
FlaRakPz. 1: 10.3 → 10.0 Missiles are so bad you cannot hit an evading target at all.
Leo 2: stay at 10.3 but could get DM33.
BMP-2M: 10.0 → 11.0. High RoF, APFSDS, IRST, best ground based anti Tank missiles
2S38: 10.0 → 11.0 highest pen for an autocannon, IRST + Proxy Fuse, better than PUMA or even H_STVL in any aspect.
Obj. 292: Could stay at 10.0 but could also go up to 10.3. With the high pen and low reload it wouldn´t make a difference if moved up but the armor would not be as strong as in 9.0 matches.
Falcon: 8.3 → 8.0 While being really really strong it is not on par with radar AA. Also fits well with the british 8.0 deck.
Which Su-22M3s are included in this? There are 3 versions of the Su-22M3; the russian, the italian and the German trainer version.
Does this include the German Su-22UM3K, because it isn’t shown as clear as the MiG-21s above that?
If not then Italy and USSR both get another all aspect slinger under 11.0 while Germany still has none.
The only difference of these aircraft is that the German one is a trainer and has the ability to equip the S-5K rocket pods (Edit: and a handful of flares more).
Can we move the J6K1 back down to 6.0? The fact that this plane is at 6.7 is mind-boggling, especially now that it is fighting high-performance props and jet fighters. The plane was nerfed shortly after it was released, and it’s been fairly average since. The only thing it has going for it is its armament.
The plane, in my hundreds of battles of experience, is not equipped to fight at this BR. It consistently faces opponents that are far faster than it and retain energy better. I have a big problem fighting jets; I can’t even dive on them and catch them off-guard because of how easily the plane compresses. Fighting super props is hard as well; many of them can match its turn rate, especially at higher speeds. The climb rate sucks too.
If the plane is kept at 6.7, please at least improve its compression speed. It is way too low for its current BR.
In order for a 7.3 to see 8.3, 7.3 needs to be far more popular than both 8.3 and 6.3.
However, 7.3 physically cannot get more popular than 6.3 due to how few aircraft are 7.3.
You photograph includes 7.7s, which aren’t 7.3 and thus your post is null and void.
@Tristacomand
Not only is there not enough vehicles on the planet for 24, that changes the system too much and would cause backlash.
@Firestarter@Master_Teaz
The last time I died to an F-104 was when I was in a bomber, and once.
The last time I died to a Mig-15 was many, many years ago; Despite having played over 200 battles in the 8.7 area over the last stint.
Also I have played a weaker version of the Mk24: P51H5NA.
I have far more experience than you realize.
As for the primary reason I haven’t played more P51H5NA and Mk24, been focusing on getting ground completed.
To conclude this point after the petty insults thrown at me:
Mig-15 to props is like F-104 to Mig-17s; having so much energy but not the maneuverability to actually win.
Agreed that my opinion is far from likely to change their opinion on these 7.0 planes that I specifically mentioned. But, as I said, there are other planes (up and down the tiers) that need re-evaluation as there is often an ripple effect to other planes up/down the BRs.
In regards to the poll, I still maintain that a poll (while not intended to elucidate fact) is purely opinion. Obviously they care somewhat about opinion as is evident from their major step back from their overwhelmingly unpopular proposed economy change in 2023. A poll, while not perfect, could provide more information (of opinions) to “the deciders” at Gaijin as to whether or not they want to implement the changes.