Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2024

I am concerned about F84-Fs remaining at 8.3, especially with their direct upgrades, the F86 Sabers, being at 8.3 now. The F84-F and its variants now have even less of a usable role in any version of play. Both in GRB and ARB they now have strictly better competitors in every tree and lack a defined role in ARB or Naval.

The F84-F was already considered a poor performing plane once it lost its airspawn due to its inability to dogfight even halfway reliably due to its abysmal speed loss in turns, and it is unable to compete as a ground attack plane in ARB due to how slow it is. Furthermore its not even good at GRB for a dedicated ground attack role due to the abundance of ways to take it down and its lack of flares, CCIP or dive recovery.

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And there is no reason for the 5.7 liverpool and belfast to engage the eugen, with a moderate rate of fire and without the APCBC that most ships at this BR has.

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Return their airspawn and they would at least be plyable, since F-84Fs are only good at bombing bases in ARB anyways. Someone datamined more airspawn datas from the folders, and this may indicate that gaijin could be working on something around it.

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2s38 should get a BR increase to 10.3
Why? Because its a overall really neat tank. Really neat firepower, ability to shoot air targets, but you cant forget that it has a large profile, and somewhat “bad” mobility.

292 should increase to 10.3 ?
Yes, it has a real punchy gun, because of it, its a good sniper.
Wont say 10.7 because of it having no smoke launcer and only ESS (which is useless against TVD), no TVD, any kind of mg, on top of it has the russian problems of it having bad gun elevation speed and
angles.

Turms should just stay in 10.0 or change it 10.3
gen 2 TVD and CITV is really usefull, but you cannot forget the fact that it has the same armor as the 72A.

As i seen the main issue with the HSTV-L is its post pen dmg, just buff it.

Mig-15 br decrease is neat and all, but because of this there wont be any hard counter for it.

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With the airspawn they would be weak but playable if they remain at 8.3. But, without it they are one of the few literally unplayable planes in the game. They quite literally cannot do anything to score, gain points, or affect a match due to every single other plane in their tier being better than them. Hell, they can’t even 1v1 a B-29…

Most bombers are borderline useless indeed. Except for some machines like the Pe-8, Tu-2, lancasters, or SB2Cs who can act as CAS or tac nuke carriers, most of them are rather unenjoyable. However it is because gaijin was forced to change the bomber meta after how 4 Tu-2s or B-29s can win the game without even landing back.
The problem here might be solved with rethinking bomber gameplays though, changing BRs would only hold the problem for so long. There are machines at 4.7 or even 3.7 that can still make short works of PBY-4s, namely SB2C-5 and B7A2/B7A2 H-23, or interceptors like XP-50.

RB F-5E FCU 11.3>11.0
JA37D at 11.3 has 6 missiles (4 9L, which are better than 9P-4 and 2 Skyflashes with Doppler radar which are not comletely useless at this BR), ~150 km/h better top speed, good turn and BOL pods (you can just ignore enemy missiles!). There is no ground vehicles at 11.3, so this planes can’t really help Japan with its lack of CAS as well.

And don’t move down MiGs-15. Just imagine face of the spitfire Mk.24 facing MiG-15bis ISh! It’s MUCH better to move all planes after 10.0-10.3 up and increase all BRs to 13.0 or even 13.3. There is no way to actually balance these BRs without decompressing

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These changes are alright but we don’t want lower BR
planes, we want the BR’s to be extended!

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When will the tap hole that currently exists be expanded from the current 1.0 - 12.0 to the normal 1.0-15.7/16.0?

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Again, non-german ground is nerfed

Id also say the T-80UD could be moved to 10.7/11.0 and given 3BM46. Currently it is rather formidable but equally not fun to play, it also kinda makes turms redundant if the players already researched Russia and has enough crew XP(such as grinding with 2S38). With other machines that should also get moved up such as obj 292 at 10.7, it should be able to make a rather unpopular BR in high tier USSR/Russia somewhat unique to play.

YES!

Or even just giving them a temporary ability that does that. It would make scouting a lot more valuable, and give LTs a big use. Though, it might cause issues at lower tiers, so more things would need scouting. (And some viecles would not get the LT’s low visibility, especially at low tier.)

(pls give it to pakpuma this totally not biased)

Guys make sure you like any suggestion you like, they will adjust the ones with the most likes.

I agree with you but just comparing it to the bulldog. Is it .3 better? Yeah. Is it .7 better? Without HEATFS hell nah

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One thing that needs to be done is an increase in AI gunner effectiveness and range, especially in RB.

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Russia 10.0 line up is completely broke and need adjustments. Can we all agree.

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2s38 is fine its the T-80UD and the 292 that need to move up

Helena is probably the single best CL in the game, moving it down would be criminal

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It may be the problem of the sloppy and inconsistent target acquisition in air battles as a whole, but indeed.

Shh, dont tell him I oneshot a maus with ZT3A2 on mozdok hulldown, he cant even see me because im hiding behind the hill at F7 and its foggy where I got (GEN 2 btw) thermals
But thats more like any heavies in an uptier so this doesnt say much, the maus is fine at 7.7

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