I would suggest R2Y2s going 7.7 o:
I think these have the same performance as Me 262, if not worse. I have these 3 planes, but they definitely are not 8.0 planes, at least, definitely not made to face anything with air to air guided missiles. They have no radar, no warning system. Not that I complain, in the end, I don’t think these three have place anywhere, but it would be nice, if these three got some love from Gaijin c:
Agreed. The changes to Sabres, MiG-15s, and MiG-17s should NOT be implemented.
This would make starter jets unplayable/unwinnable. It would also seriously disadvantage British, Italian, French, and Swedish jets in the 8.3-9.3 BR range that would face more uptiers.
As many have mentioned, the problem here is the compression of jets from 9.3 and above downward into the Korean-era jets. Keep Sabres/MiG-15s as they are and move supersonics UP!
It can’t be due to the HP change, as m-18s which didn’t get it are also going up.
Yeah, but the armor can be trolly sometimes. Plus it’s cannon can also pen most, if not everything at it’s BR. It can UFP a Sherman, PZ4 and can pen the sides of every heavy tank it could see them, and even now when up tiered to 5.0. Oh and if you don’t believe me, I can use the same gun in the German one at 4.3 and do just fine. Andddd on top of all that, it’s not like it’s not the only one going up in BR. All the 76 ones are, except the 1940, and so it won’t be alone :) oh and just wait until you play the STZ one, same gun plus extra armor. And I don’t see that going up to 4.3 like the German one
RB:
G:
Sd.Kfz.234/2 → keep at 3.3. No survivability and weak cannon for 3.7.
M18 and M64 → keep at 5.7. It’s perfectly balanced there. It doesn’t need to go up.
A:
MiG-15 → keep at 8.3. Can’t go to 8.0, are you crazy?
Mig-15BIS → keep at 8.7. You already moved it from 8.3 to 8.7 because it was murdering everything. At 8.3 I felt like a god playing it.
In fact, looking at all the ARB changes → bad. Stop compressing. You need to expand BR!!!
Both are positioned just right at 9.0.
The only Sabre that is worth adjusting is taking the CL-13 Mk.6 down to 9.0.
F-86A, all F-86Fs, CL-15, MiG-15, MiG-15bis, MiG-15bis ISH, MiG-17, MiG-17PF, Lim-5 should all STAY PUT.
F-16 A mlu（China）12.0>12.3
In reality,the F-16A mlu which served for ROCAF
has the ability to lunch AIM9M instead AIM9L
(Because it was sent to Taiwan only with AIM9M instead of AIM9l)
And it also has the ability to carry LANTIRN 2, AGM65G and GBUs,
Option B is the only way, the 2S38 doesn’t deserve that low of a BR and introducing the HSTV-L at 10.0 wouldn’t make things anything any better.
M18 HP/tonne went from 22.6 to 25.99, which is a VERY large difference.
In my opinion, moving to 6.0 is fine, but ONLY if they fix (unnerf) the APCR to have historical 230 mm pen, and to fix M18’s top speeds to 96 km/h and -32 km/h.
The German T-34 also has a stronger turret with a faster reload and improved hull armor, as it is a combination of the T-34 (1942) with the T-34E STZ, which are the 4.0 T-34s.
So the T-34 (1942) gets the stronger turret with faster reload, the T-34E STZ gets the big hull armor improvement, and the T-34 (1941) gets neither. It just ends up being worse.
That’s very true.
This change is so dumb tbh
move both to 9.3 and give the F-104C the extra AIM-9Bs, just like all the foldered straight up grades at the same BR (Spit 14 → 17, Cheiftain 3 → 5, T-34('42) T-34E, Pz 4 F2 → G, Pz 4 E → F1, B-57A → B and so on)
I’d love to see the F-16A MLU be introduced with better ordinances in return for a BR of 12.3.
M26 to 6.3.
M551(76): 7.0-7.0
but do pls give a HEATFS ok? How the hell this using merely a APDS and against those 7.7 heavy tanks
J-5(Export): 9.3-9.0
All Mig 17 PFs gone to 8.7 and why this being exceptional? Plus where is Mig 17 AS?
Type 16( FPS): 9.3-9.7 with Type 93 APFSDS added
Never on Earth a vehicle built in 2016 can’t get APFSDS which was in 1993. Pls tell me why this still using M735 APFSDS, JGSDF received M735 only since 1984 and after 1993 they already started using Type 93 APFSDS. And how could a 2016’s vehicle still using a 1984 APFSDS?
Aim9M have no business fighting 11.3 planes with 30 countermeasures.
Any F-16 with Aim9M should automatically move to 12.7. Especially since the A are the most agile versions, even with a weaker radar they would compete directly with the Gripen.
It goes for the F-15 of course, they all need to move to 12.7.
I totally agree!
To be more precise, the point I was trying to make with Option A is how the two shouldn’t so different in BR as they currently are. That being said, I think it’s better for 2S38 to go up to HSTV-L, rather than the HSTV-L coming down.
Marder A1 should also go 8.0 with SPz BMP-1, their effectiveness are similar (20mm better in CQB and AA, 73mm better with hard targets, and both missiles good with hard targets )
Pbv 501 also moves up in RB, probably to 7.0 or 7.3, its maneuverability is too good for the WWII tanks in 6.7
GROUND - MY PROPOSAL FOR VEHICLES NOT IN THE SPREADSHEET
2S25M - 10,0 to 10,7 and increase vertical targeting to NATO caunterparts
This vehicle is perfect “glass cannon” (good themals, drone, excelent gun, but non existent armour without LWS or IRCM) but the vertical targeting is extremly anoying while playing on hilly terrain and get me killed often. Addition of 3BM60 was also overkill for this vehicle at 10,0 and doesnt really change anything.
T-62 - 8,7 to 8,3:
I see no difference between T-55A and T-62 expect for T-55A having 12,7mm, which makes it a better vehicle. Although T-62 has 115mm gun, i cannot really see meaningful damage or penetration differece compared to 100mm on T-55A
Comet - 5,3 to 4,7 or lower the base relload from 9,6 to 8,5s (preferable option):
Comet has really long realload and it is getting outrelloaded basically by every 75,85 and 88mm gun. That woudnt be that bad, but the problem is that your penetration is not that good and you have that fatal flaw of -3 kph, which will get you killed unless you disable firing capabilities of enemy vehicle.You also have irelevant armour againist anything better then M61 APHE (104mm pen APHE on M4). One of the worst medium tanks at this BR.
Marder1A1 - 7,7 to 8,0
Same reason as BMP-1 is going up (propably). I hate facing ATGMs in late WW2 vehicles without stabiliser. It has worse main gun againist ground vehicles, but significantly better air to air capabilities.
AIR - MY PROPOSAL NOT IN THE SPREADSHEET
F-5C and F-5A (USA) - 10,3 to 10,7 and add AIM-9J or remove flares and move it to 10,0 (there are comments about it above mine)
Very good flight performance, decent guns, engines are cooler then most of the planes - side aspect locks with rear aspect missiles are not really possible. TLDR it is excelent dogfighter in quick engagements with flares which is perfect for rank 6/7 premium meta.
F-5E - 10,7 to 11,0
Same reasson as for F-5C. It is just better version of it (stronger engines) and missiles.
GROUND- MY PROPOSAL FOR CHANGES WHICH ARE IN SPREADSHEET
BTR-ZD, BRT-152D, ZSD63 please can you explain why are these vehicles going up? BTR-152 will be 0,7 higer then ostwind, which has 37mm APHE round, and better platform (aka Panzer IV hull with better protected turret). Sure, against planes it has worse hit propabiity then armoured car with 14,5mm MGs, but it survives much more enemy fire and it is better against tanks.
T-34 - I agree it is strong vehicle, but also move all Panzer IVs with long 75mm up by 0,3, these guns are insanely strong.
AIR- MY PROPOSAL FOR CHANGES WHICH ARE IN SPREADSHEET
Unfortunately i disagree with EVERY SINGLE of proposed changes expect for Mirage IIIC
Mig-15s, F-86s and its derivates will decimate early jets BR bracket. Mig-17, Q-5A are similar situation. AJS37 will be very strong at 10,7 with OK flight performance and 4 AIM-9Ls. PB4Y has a lot of gunners and it is fine at 5,0, look at some of the british bombers with 7,7mm turrets instead…
Honestly i feel like Tiger 2H should be 7.0 and M26 6.3 atleast
Also another addition is HSTVL to 11.0 and T80ud 10.3 atleast