Yes, it was unpleasant when I grinded it out (even to the point of GEing modifications to get the TY-90s), but the stock grind shouldn’t change the BR of a vehicle.
(CN) SA.342L Gazelle > 8.3
I don’t know how people think this thing is equal to the Z-11WA, its arguably worse in every aspect except mobility. It does not have the performance to be a 8.7, and also, something needs to be done about modification grind for helicopters.
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It is clear that we have our own opinions, and i agree with yours, although also as Wiese said, without it getting tracking it should go to 10.3, but if it receives tracking it should stay at 10.7
tbf 16x TY-90s is just overkill. Even if you have to throw two per enemy plane, there likely won’t even spawn enough planes to warrant that much AA ordinance.
Not to mention at that BR, jets usually either fly very high up, where you can’t go in a Z-10 without being shot down by SPAA, or they come in so low you’ll have a hard time hitting them because your TY-90s will pull into the ground trying to intercept them.
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The IRST tracking would make the AKD-9s a lot more viable, so I guess I can see where your stance is.
I’ve moved the Z-10 to 11.7 in my list after thinking about it.
100% agreed on SA.342L!
I don’t see why you’d put Z-19 above the hellfire helis though, AKD-9 are just so much worse, and like I said, the TY-90s aren’t that big of a boon at toptier anymore. Z-10 at least gets AKD-10, so I can kiiiinda accept it even though I don’t really see the point there either.
People hate TY-90s at 10.0 so much that they forgot how little relevancy they have for 11.7. Chances are you get shot down by SPAA or an enemy fighter before any TY-90 can reach you.
Absolutely none of the M-18s need to go up. Given how much this game loves up-tiering you, they do not need to see 7.0-7.3 Cold War heavies.
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This goes for the Super Hellcat as well. It’s fine at 6.3. Moving it to 6.7 means it’ll always see IS-3s and IS-6s. It has no business fighting those. Terrible BR proposal.
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That’s a pretty bad idea.
Some tanks/planes will become very undertiered just because no one plays them, while popular tanks will go up in BR for no reason other than the fact they are played often.
A better solution would be to take a more objective approach to vehicle balance, and relying less on statistics.
Im more surprised hes not blocked by everyone at this point.
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I have the AH-1Z and YAH-64. From my experiencs with them, the Hellfires deal much more damage than the AKD-9s, so they are better suited to dealing with tanks. However, they struggle (even at 5/6km) to hit anything that moves non-linearly, unlike the AKD-9. This is especially noticeable when you are shooting a hellfire at an enemy helicopter who’s evading at 4km compared to shooting an AKD-9 at a helicopter who’s evading at the same distance or even 5km. The AKD-9 is very reliable at hitting targets (as well as the AKD-10, although they are much slower and only outpace the AKD-9 at 6km or more. This is why I prefer using the AKD-9s in the Z-10 despite having access to the AKD-10s.) The Z-19s are also much more manueverable than any of the Apaches or Viper (although they do lack the chin-mounted gun for close-proximity self-defense).
TY-90s can be dodged if you know it’s coming for you and if you know how to dodge them effectively (roll dodge), I agree. In random battles, people rarely know what to do and usually don’t know you’re even there (Z-19 has air-to-air radar that does not give pings to enemy aircraft RWR).
In more competitve modes, like SRB, Z-19s become a bit easier to deal with, but in this case, Z-19s can easily support other helicopters or jets via third-partying, and get support by other helicopters and jets. You cannot do this with any of the hellfire helicopters, and if you only care about ground-pounding, the Ka-50 is just the better option.
So US air RB win rates are at an all time high for going on what? Years now? And the AMX gets moved up.
I know the US are the loudest player base but come on now. We still have the F-104 sitting at 9.3 for gods sake!
If you think 50-55% is an ‘all time high’, I don’t think it’s very impressive xD
Source: https://wt.controlnet.space/
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The 104 is kinda stuck in a limbo now where if you move it up it would be absolutely hopeless against things with better msl, at least with all the subsonic moving down it would not be as dominating
His takes are so insane im surprise he haven’t got ousted yet. Literally gold medalist for mental gymnastics.
Decompression is needed, since the F-104A shouldn’t be facing 10.3s like the AJ37 / Mig-21 SMT/MF or F-5C, and especially none of the all-aspects (other than maybe the SU-25K for how short-range the R-60MKs are).
I have had him blocked for over a year and a half at this point, good to know i was right for doing so back then because he hasn’t changed at all.
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Fully agreed.
The negative effects to 7.0-8.0 planes will be WORSE than the benefit to the 8.0-9.0 planes.
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