Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2024

[Yorkx2]

I think that there is no reason for the T-34(1941) to move to 4.0, reason being that at 4.0 in the USSR tech tree we already have variants of the T-34 that are objectively better; like the T-34(1942), T-34 STZ and T-34E. These vehicles have the same firepower and very comparable mobility while having better armor. These vehicles are well balanced at where they are while the 1941 model won’t be used as it is simply outclassed for 4.0. Another Issue is that this ruins the Swedish 3.7 lineup leaving it with only one tech tree vehicle for no real balancing reasons as this leaves them with no better options for an all round medium tank (an issue that USSR doesn’t have)

Thank you for reading :)

[digod]

All for RB

1. AH-1W (USA&CN) 10.7 > 10.3 should be the same BR as G-LYNX and T129, cuz they have same capabilies
2. Mi-35M 10.7 > 10.3 same capabilities as G-Lynx and T129 but sligtly better zoom and less max distance on AGM’s 6km vs 8km on hellfires
3. Israeli AH-60 11.3 > 11.7 or even 12.0 . It has no place to be on 11.3 with 16 Spike ER missiles while all of competition with similar missiles are on 11.7 with 8 missiles vs 16 on AH-60

[AlphaVI]

LOL, if the AMX-30 DCA goes to 8.7, then that means all these vehicles must go 8.7 too by their logic :

• Gepard
• Chieftain marksman
• ZA-35
• type 87
• PGZ09

no reason only for the AMX-30 DCA to go up in br alone, why is it so targeted against france each time ?

its the same with the EBRs

• 5.3 > 4.3 E.B.R. (1951) = a 3.3 tank equal to a Tiger H1 ?
• 6.7 > 5.7 E.B.R. (1954) = why is this thing at 6.7 ? it faces so many things it cant do anything
• 7.7 > 7.0 E.B.R. (1963) / AML-90 = like the AML-90 , being at 7.0 would be fair like the israel AML-90 at 7.0

now let me ask you this, when was the last time you saw any EBR in games ?, is it quite often ?

[Dontkev-psn]

@Master_Teaz

leave the 9L for the ICE its fine at 10.7, its a worse F-4E (no sparrows and less ground strike ordinance) and its BR should reflect that

Ah, thats why the F-4F has a higher BR in SB lul

[warner7]

mid tier 8.0 needs decompression, T-54’s and other heavies are suffering.

[Wišadel]

Sure buddy I also care about my virtual penis (stats) size.

Its a fact 2S38 should go up. Cope/cry/seethe/mald, dont care didnt ask, russian main.

[Pegasus7217]

2s38 to 10.7

This needs to be done

[nathanclawfish]

Honestly its on par with the hstvl, it could go to 11.3 any day and still preform identically to it is now

[Pegasus7217]

Pen values of 2s38 sit in the middle while compared with 9040c and HTSTVL so that’s why I said that it should be 10.7 but if it goes even higher, I won’t have any problems with that

[Firestarter]

@AlvisWisla

Spitfires would meme on the early Mig-15.

While I get Spitties are absolutely fantastic (I know, incredible British engineering) I do somewhat feel that the MiG-15 will have no real problems printing a metric ass tonne of energy to “counter” the Spit.

[nathanclawfish]

unless the mig has no idea what they are doing the spit will lose everytime.

[nathanclawfish]

aye the pen is the only short fall, but its more than enough to turret ring, breech and devestate any tank it sees from the side

[Master_Teaz]

teh sim BRs are fucked anyway, it makes no sense for it to be a higher BR than the FGR, probabally a gaijin moment where they forgot to move it down with other phantoms and never rectified it

[Firestarter]

The La-200 might be okay… and maybe the airspawn F-84s… but that’s kinda it. I remember when bringing a J29 i’d do a nice climb pattern that’d give me a decent amount of energy… and then some MiG-15 who was a good 5,000ft higher than me would ruin my game by forcing me defensive and force me down… what made it worse was there wasn’t really a counterplay to it. They were faster, so you couldn’t run away. They could retain their energy better, so they’d only ever lose if they tried to take a rolling fight with you… which is risky in itself…

[Master_Teaz]

@Beeschurger

Issue is it really isnt fine at 9.0.

1A5 is massive upgrade to its playstyle with laser range finder and thermals and better round, and it sits just 0.3 higher.

i checked with my german main friend and he said its underwelming at 9.0 but fine, theres many cases where a significant upgrade is 0.3 away (examples being IS-2 and IS-2 (1944), T-44 and T-44-100, FV4202, Centurion Mk.3, Cromwell V and Cromwell I, the Two Crusaders, etc…) its not uncommon, you see a few of them which means that they are not hopeless,

lets put it this way,

Is it going to be an Equivalent to the Chieftain Mk.5?, No Cheiftain Mk.5 has 298mm pen APDS (while the A1A1 has 337mm pen APFSDS which is much more reliable) and, Much less manoeverability, with the only armour improvement being in the turret (for what the guns fo the BR care about) and desite it being a completely differnt vehicle, the Rooikat MTTD has the same round and penetration statistics and i have never noticed an issue with the firepower on the MTTD Except in a FULL uptier facing the russian 10.0

[Master_Teaz]

even against a same BR F-84B, of they have 2 braincells they will win every time

[Shootsave]

it was balanced at 4.7 for my experience, 5.3 was dealable, but 6.0 is straight up overkill…

[wadko67501]

This is absolutely true. They are a menace to reserve destroyers at 3.3 and 3.7.

[Godvana]

Menace to everything above them too ^^

[NAYEONnaise]

CRITICISMS:

T-34 (1941, 1st armor battalion, Finland) (3.7-3.7)
all T-34 1941 now overtiered, at least compensate them with Rank III bump-up.
Poor old M4 and Pz. IV long gun users can’t aim for the gaping turret cheeks so the snail handholds them.

M18, M64 (5.7-5.7)
this thing to 6.0, idk what the snail is smoking. Germoney supphers again ig?

Spitfire Mk24 (7.0-7.0)
Spitfire mk.24 now able to fight early sabres and mig-15, hello, april fools was 14 days ago!

Ostwind (3.7-3.7)
it’s not slow firing and does not have a terrible magazine capacity, no reason to move it down to 3.3. Must in fact move up to 4.0, it’s also an objectively better plane killer than the M19A1 at 4.0 given its rate of fire.

SUGGESTED BR CHANGES:
Leopard 2A7V, Strv 122 (all variants), T-80BVM: (11.7-12.0)
move to 12.0 since these things singlehandedly make top tier unjust for all nations, apart from compression issues. Give the BVM 3BM59 (~20-30mm pen > than 3BM60) just to make it more capable with said contenders.

VT-4A1 (11.7-11.3, or buff reload/engine/aim speeds)
objectively underperforming tank compared to its domestic production cousins, the 99A and its prototype. The sluggish mobility tied with noticeably below average gun aim speeds and reload speed makes it unfit for 11.7 aka actual top tier given the nature of its contenders. I think it’s time to consult and consider the numerous reports made about this tank, or if impossible, just move it down to 11.3.

Su-25T, Su-39 (11.3-11.0)
reason: these things are the slowest at their tier and can only carry two R-73s at the most and they don’t even have HMD. Enemies can compensate for the IRCM device in the tail by just gunning this thing down, which is not a hard task given its horrendous speed. If the supersonic Jaguar IS with two Magic IIs is at 11.0, then why not this? This thing can be at 11.3 or even higher but only when equipped with A2G loadouts, which is a revolutionary feature that is sadly not yet implemented.

PRAISES:
Good to see the Sabres and early MiGs going down in BR, about time to distance them from lightning-fast missile hurlers at 9.3 and above, such as A-10/Su-25, mig-19 and early mig-21, etc

Finally, the objectively despised RAT issues such as that of the Fox and Leopard 40-70 are being addressed.