Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2024

So, I barely ever reply to anything on here but I’d just like to point out something that Gaijin seem to be ignoring or doing completely backwards lately.

For Air RB if a plane is suffering It’s not always in need of lowering. Sometimes it’s suffering because of what is ABOVE it’s battlerating.

All of these 9.0, 8.7 and 8.3 being lowered does nothing other than move the problem DOWN.
All of these jets being lowered are completely fine were they are if those few supersonic aircraft that are TOO LOW above are moved higher.

All Mig19 Variants(including the Q5’s), All F104’s, All F-100, All Lightnings… In fact all of the supersonic jets should not be lower than 9.7 or 10.0… and if the excuse is because they don’t have flares, Well… For the sake of gameplay either ADD FLARES or move whatever has all aspect missiles higher.

All aspect missiles should not be facing subsonic jets either, aircraft without flares should not be facing all aspect missiles either. Subsonic conventional fighters should not be facing supersonic jets with missiles. The gameplay is complete trash at 9.3-10.3 unless you’re downtiered. Balance should never be about being uptiered or downtiered.

In most battles you’re best off just leaving the battle if you’re uptiered and this should never be the case.

Air RB is completely over compressed and this “12.7” battle rating that was added a few months ago did nothing to alleviate this because moving a few top tier jets up did nothing to help anything below 11.3. All this did was prove how bad the compression is below 12.0.

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and fight against spitfire mk24

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AMX to 10.7 completely removes this from GRB. This is just not warranted, any helicopter at that BR is going to be more efficient at cas duty. What are you supposed to use the amx for then? Play at 10.7 and uptier your entire ground loadout? Or play at top tier and get slaughtered by better planes? This is an awful idea. AMX is a competent plane, there is really no reason to hit italy again where they have some solid options left.

Other nations have similar or stronger options at 10.3 or below!

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T-2 has the same effectiveness.

hellcat 6.0? what? fox 7.7? what? Fox should go to 7.3

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The F-15 is still at 12.3 by the way

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ive never had a problem with the lightning, the Red tops just need to be fired with extreme displine, the range is awful but the 16G makes it good, the firestreak is sad as hell though, and flight performance wise its decent, just don’t be getting slow

The M64 has better armour, protecting it against machine guns and auto cannons to the hull

fox needed to go up
7.7 is pushign it 7.3 is alright
either way it actualyl moves up to a full lineup

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Yeah this just feels so mean-spirited. Let italy have ONE competent ground attacker for once?!

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Magach 5 ignored again, almost same performance as GER M48GA2.
Mig15Bis ISH 8.0?Are you serious?Compress Jet BR? Why?
M18 Black Cat doesn’t get engine buff, moved to 6.0? Fine, it’s not unacceptable.
Tiger II P and M26 still stay 6.7? Tiger II H/T26E5 and so on don’t change?
BMP1 to 8.0, SWE BMP should follow to 7.0.

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Alright, easy list:

Correct ARL-44 ACL-1’s reload rate to be at least in line with the Sherman 75’s (they use the same exact ammo), From 7.5-9.75s > 5-6.5s (even tho it should be faster due to the mechanical assisted loader, but I digress)

RB: 3.7 > 4.0 (In-line with standard M4 Sherman 75)

Correct ARL-44’s reload rate to at least be in-line with the Tiger II, the tank it was designed to emulate, 10.0-13.0s > 7.5-9.7s (although again it should reload much faster than Tiger II, 5-6s due to the mechanical assisted loader, based on historical reports:

but I again digress)

RB: 5.3 > 6.0? (Suggested to move to Heavy/Proto line as it would hardly qualify as a TD at this point. In it’s place suggested to move M4 SA50 to TD line, as that is what it was irl and was only a prototype built to prove the concept for Israel. In it’s place could go M4A1 76 MDAP. I approve of all of these.)

Correct Char M4’s reload rate, 6.7s > 4s, based on historical documentation:

RB: 6.7 > 7.0

Correct reload rate of Foch, 14.90-19.37s > 5-6s, based on historical documentation:

RB: 7.3 > 7.7? (Can’t rly go any higher until we get more decompression)

Give Mephisto HOT-3 so it can actually be used in uptiers. AFT-09 already has tandem charge ATGMs at only 0.3BR higher. To quote the Wiki: “The HJ-9 is much deadlier than the HOT-2 however, with twice the flight speed, 25% greater raw penetration, and a tandem warhead, allowing players to be more aggressive.” It seems rather unfair that one gets such greater benefits for a barely higher BR.
Give Mephisto HOT-3!!!
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HIj4DucaHA11

RB: 8.7 > 9.0

That’s what I got for now.

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Yep. I think it would be fine at 10.3, considering it has 1/3rd the missiles and worse dogfighting performance of the Draken at the same BR. Also has a highly offset gun pod. 9.7 is pretty ridiculous

Ostwind switches places with the Wirbelwind in the tech-tree.
Why?

Because 20mm cannons hit way to hard.

Why do you think they went with 37mm FlaK guns and considered the 20mm obsolete?

Because five or six 20mm == one 37mm hit but you get way more range with the larger caliber.

But nowdays you just need 1-2 20mm hits to kill a fighter. Making the 37mm redundant.

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For the love of jod, please dont move the mig15s/sabres down in br, move the f104, up instead

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It’s good to move these 9.3 - 8.3 subsonic fighters down, but you forgot the Shenyang F-5.
CL-13B Mk.6 (Germany) gets from 9.3 to 9.0, Shenyang F-5 should also get, both are subsonic fighters with afterburner and AIM-9B

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I wish… my baby the Hunter F.1 still faces All Aspects and uh… it dies. I cry and sob.

Funny old thing it didn’t get included in the changes that I can see

I get the Vulcan is an exceptional gun, but I know i’d much rather take something with flares, better missiles, very nice dogfight characteristics (I suppose you could say the T-2 with its high alpha is good in that sense… but uh yeah you do you)

The range is sufficiently bad I’d rather take 9Bs.

Exactly. Right now the Fox only has a lineup with the Conway (pain) and the Demolition Vehicle (AVRE, pray for a urban map)

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it is, and has been ‘aknowledged’ for a while

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6.0 hellcats? this a joke or something? or are you just intent on ruining every good lineup the US has?

also, t-34 1941 at 4.0? you’re putting the tank with 45mm of frontal turret armor higher than the panzer 4 h because people dont know how to aim for turrets?

also, f-15 still 12.3 kekw

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OTOMATIC to 10.3 with stock APFSDS, no missiles but in terms of Br its on par with the FlaRakRad, Pantsir, ADATS, Tor-M1, ItO 90M , and better than the 2S6(heavily under tiered), Type 81 (C), XM975, Lav-AD, FlaRakPz 1, and Gepard 1A2. It is nor on par or better than any of these.

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