i don’t think it will, plus if we’re wanting realism then why are we not giving it a realistic loadout? plus i don’t think it will kill the plane it will make it better when facing f14s and su30
It faces a few at a time. At 13.0 it will face whole teams of ARH slingers pretty much every game. With 30 pops of CMs of which only like 15-20 are chaff. No.
Lmao no?
there’s aircraft at that rating with the same amount? the c10 comes to mind
There is a limit to how realistic you can go before you completely destroy a vehicle
Giving the MiG-21 R-77s and moving it to 13.0 will kill it
USA units

The Kfir is 13.3
has an AESA radar, is faster and more countermeasures
It was not a very good 13.0 plane while it was there
bison will be even worse off
u do know 20k ft is 6km… there fore… not beyond visual range…
sure it can reach its range is like like 11km after locking (on a good day)
but not beyond visual range…
Gneisenau
Naval RB
7.7->8.3
besides being competely fiction this ship ties bismarck for first place as best german BB it should not face 6.7 ships its literally .3 higher than scarnhorst but better due to larger guns with more pen at range making her a lot better in current MM its basically equal to bismarck
the only thing that kept scarnhorst balanced at 7.3 was the pen being very bad at range
“Beyond visual range” is determined by whether you are within range to visually identify a target. At 20k ft, you are not within that range.
10G vs 13G is not “nearly double”


I hope here is someone who cares as much as I do about the crew experience with the selected vehicle.
ok then move it to 12.7 then with the r77s as either way it needs something to make it better as the way it is, its seriously limiting
hori is deleted, what about ostwind 2
Just leave it at 12.3 with R-27s man
I agree
Ostwind 2 is very real.
fr, so real. Such a real tank
Thus it can and will hurt you if you mention it’s deletion

