Planned Battle Rating Changes (August 2026)

Vehicle: F-4E (Late) US
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR: 11.7

Reason for addition:
The F-4E in the US Air Tree at 11.3 is perfect. However. It currently lacks the correct cockpit for the types of weapons it can carry. It’s using the older style cockpit whilst carrying AGM-65s, GBU-8/15, and AGM-62. My suggestion is to add a late variant, using the correct cockpit (from the F-4F Late), and remove the GBU-15 from the F-4E Early.

Instead, take the Pave Spike and GBU-12 from the Kurnass 2000 and add them to the F-4E Early, and then give us the Pave Tack from the F-111 on the F-4E Late Centerline Pylon. With this, add GBU-15, GBU-10, GBU-24, AGM-65D (Triple Rails) and G (single rails), AIM-9L, AIM-7F, and AGM-62 Walleye II. This fills a desperately open niche between the F-4E Early and F-15A.

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100% agree

One of the few allied heavy tanks that lets you actually push and try make use of the armor, and isnt an immediate point & click adventure for any long 88/128mm user

Coddling of WW2 german tanks continues

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Vehicle: Panther A

Gamemode: GRB

Change: 6.0 to 5.7 and nerf to rank 3.

Reason: Is unnecesary put 3 Panthers in the same BR when G and F are performing much better and are clearly a improvement over the A variant. Is good to due Germany 5.7 is composed by just poor movility heavies and TD give them a boost to his movility and tactics.

my god bro what are you saying do you even play this game?
the counter to irccm sams is… turning
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???

It’s already at 7.0 now. It’s fine now, as it struggles pretty badly in 7.7-8.0 matches.

They look at the average income per Su-30 premium player they do not care if it breaks the game another few months and it will be uptiered where it should have always been.

It’s a really scummy business model but one Gaijin seems to favour.

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Vehicle: Mirage 4000
Mode: Air-RB
Suggestion: Move it from 13.0 to 12.7
Explanation: The Mirage 4000 is worse than the F-15A in many respects. Some of these are: flight model, countermeasures, MPRF mode, and better fox-1s.

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too hard, i shouldnt even need to do that.

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Quite literally, are you alright?

The Panther A should go down to 5.7 while the T25 sits at 6.3? While the T44 sits at 6.7?

Vehicle: Panther A

Gamemode: GRB

Change: 6.0 to 5.7 and nerf to rank 3.

Reason: Is unnecesary put 3 Panthers in the same BR when G and F are performing much better and are clearly a improvement over the A variant. Is good to due Germany 5.7 is composed by just poor movility heavies and TD give them a boost to his movility and tactics.

Yup, economy (and “player stats”) > vehicle specs

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Why not also the Leopard 1 with the 120mm?

Also why let britain suffer so much?

Think it should go to 12.0 and get PL-5EIIs then.

It still has AIM-9Js, even though it never used them in real life. They were added as an early interpretation of the Peace Rhine modernization program. Because of that same modernization, both aircraft should receive AIM-9Ls as well.

I dont think the Leos should move down to begin with, but the 120mm definitely shouldn’t move down. It’s very strong at its current BR

“The F14s came down, but everything you use went up. And the problems are still waiting for downtiers.”

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Vehicle: F-4G “Wild Weasel V” US
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR: 11.7

Reason for addition:
The F-4G has been long wanted. Since the addition of ARMs, and the ESM system, the F-4G makes more sense now than ever before.

Add: F-4G could carry most everything the late model F-4E could carry.
AIM-7E/F/M
AIM-9E/J/P/L/M
AGM-45A/B
AGM-78 STARM
AGM-88A
GBU-10/12/24
Mk80 series
CBU-52/87/Mk20
AGM-65A/B/D/G
ALQ-119/131/184

Folder with F-4E (Late) US at 11.7 or appropriate BR.

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The J-11A has MAWS and a better FM, so in my opinion, they are sidegrades of each other. Su-30MKK and MK2 should go up, naturally the J-11A has to follow aswell

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The T80UD/BE has gen 2 thermals, Kontact 5 era and has the better turret. It only lacks in reverse speed but thats fine. The t80B does not have good amour and can be shot through the upper front plate with 3bm42. Both are fine where they are.

this is a battle rating change thread

not a vehicle suggestion one

And yet it still used them for training in the US