They can fire at distances where the vehicle can’t even be seen. Heck, they might even br considered BVR (by technicality).
Excuse me?
They are doing BR reductions across the board from 12.7, all the way down to 2.3
There are dozens of planes that are above the radar gun SPAA that are going down in BR
Even stuff like the Su-25s and Su-22s is going down in BR
Q-5L
- Air Realistic Battles BR: May warrant an increase in BR
- Give Q-5L its missing PL-5 air-to-air missiles (Bug Report)
- Increase countermeasure count from 18 → 64 (Bug Report)
Reasoning: As it stands, the Q-5L offers little over the Q-5A in air battles, aside from expanded CAS weaponry and smart bomb capability, while both share the same BR and nearly identical flight performance. A bug report has indicated that the Q-5L may be capable of carrying two PL-5 air-to-air missiles.
I recommend giving the Q-5L its missing PL-5 air-to-air missiles to better differentiate it from the Q-5A (Late).
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At that br its longest possible tbf (5-6 km). And jets only have unguided stuff there. Skyhawks have up to 3 gbu but they should move to 9.7 just like yak.
CCRP and CCIP is plenty at those stages
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then you might be the only one, having grinded both Type 90’s and Merkava 3’s when they disn’t have stock apfsds and their only KE round was a Tier 3 modification the suffering was real. since most tanks of that era have good HEAT protection and USSR and CHN have mostly stock ERA to negate HEAT-FS.
I would advocate for No stock HEAT and at the very least one KE round as stock, anything is better the HEAT that triggers on everything and if you have rifle calibre MG you can’t even remove half of the obstructions. Anything from T6 and up seems about right.
Alpha Jet Family
- Alpha Jet A
- Alpha Jet A (JaboG 41)
- Alpha Jet A (Japan)
- Alpha Jet E
Changes:
- Air Realistic Battles: 9.0 → 8.7
- Alpha Jet’s high AOA fixes (FM nerf) (Bug Report)
- Alpha Jet’s top speed reduced (FM nerf) (Bug Report)
- Alpha Jet’s sustained G and thrust boundaries fixes (FM nerf) (Bug Report)
Reasoning: There are accepted reports that have not yet been implemented in War Thunder that would correct the Alpha Jet’s flight model, reducing its overperformance. It does not make sense that the Alpha Jet was moved up to 9.0 in the last BR changes feedback without applying those FM nerfs.
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But its nowhere as good as walleye, gbu8, kab500kr or swiss gibberish designation for agm65b (sorry swiss people).
besides imagine this, helicopters are a thing as well. 5km shturms as example
and we all know how much missles actualy love to lock on helis…
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what does the santal even do besides explode randomly?
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Should really be a foldered vehicle as well, since its essentially a sidegrade
You can get locks with those IR only SAMs?
Vehicle: Type 99
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 7.3 —> 6.7
Reason: The Type 99 is absolutely identical to the 2S19M1 and AuF1. The autoloader is the same, 7.5 seconds. The mobility of the Type 99 is slightly worse than that of the two aforementioned artillery systems. The Type 99’s aiming angle is only -2, compared to -4 and -5 on analogs. Compared to its counterparts, the Type 99 looks the worst; the inability to depress the gun imposes significant limitations that others don’t. Note: the AS90 has a 5-second reload time and a -5 gun depression at BR 7.0. The Type 99 should follow its counterparts at BR 6.7, otherwise its current BR is simply absurd.
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That thing is 9.7. And afaik hinds and kamovs have rigged heat signature which lets aa lock them from absurd ranges (5-7km) even front aspect.
You mean like the F-104 or F8U? They ain’t exactly threats to SPAA.
Both can only attack vehicles visible to the naked eye.
Requested change: FJ-4B - 8.7 > 8.3
Reasoning: Flight performance is very mediocre and underwhelming when compared to the competition at it’s BR, it does not perform well there currently either.
The airspawn it used to have has long been removed and it is currently the same BR as stuff such as the Mig-17/Lim-5/Mig-17PF/F2 Sabre (This is just the FJ-4B but better in every way)/Cl13A, which are all superior in every metric.
It’s speed is ok, however it doesn’t turn that well and it’s very heavy, the only things it has going for it are Aim-9B’s and the Cannons.
It’s flight performance is much more in line with with aircraft you’d find at 8.3 such as the F9F-8/Swift F1/Saab-105. Moving it down would make it worth flying as a fighter again since you would not face 9.7 and the flight performance would be somewhat more competitive at 8.3.
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Italy
SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
Ground Realistic
9.7 → 10.7
Same long range IRCCM missiles as the SANTAL, but with the added
bonus of guns to cover close range. Again not much to add. IRCCM does not belong facing flareless post-war jets.
(note)
In accordance with early SAMs going up, the following planes would also have to be raised:
A-4E (Early), Ayit, Hunter F.58, Yak-130, A-4E Early (M), and A-4E.
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Fully agreed.
SIDAM at a BR higher than the Strela
Brother, you are cooked
Learn to play CAS and stop crying about SPAA being able to do its job
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