It’s far better than the concept, maybe 5.0
It cannot face free pantsir; the total BR have to be .3 or more over to give it freely.
You will see thors, OSA or 2S6. Pantsir S-1 are in mineup if they are in 11.0-12.0.
Vehicle: Super Hellcat
Gamemode: Realistic
BR Change: 6.3 → 6.3 and keep 7.5 seconds reload
Reason: Super Hellcat right now is really mid vehicle. It is worse than M18 and M41A1 in mobility, worse in reload speed, worse in turret traverse, but have better shells that can kill panther in hull (if it is not angled) or (((sometimes))) kill Tiger II H in turret with M304. But it comes with major disadvantage: while most of it’s enemies can shoot while moving with decent accuracy on ±500m, because of how light hull Super Hellcat is and how heavy it’s gun weights, it’s allways need to stop and wait 2-3 seconds just to stabilise the gun, main enemies will shoot you first (and they will kill you or do critical damage, because how paper Super Hellcat is), while you need time to aim. Moving down IS2 is a major nerf for Super Hellcat, it is still suffer from planes, bombs, SPAA (like Kugelblitz, ostwind, AMX-10P and etc. that can somehow overpressure it???). If it will move to 6.7, it can face tanks like: MAUS, PzH 2000, Marder, IS-4M/IS-6 (IS-3 still very tough enemy), T-54, Centurion Mk.3 (cool to have stabiliser against tank that need 3 seconds to stabilize…), Type 87 RCV and etc. All this tanks too overkill for Super Hellcat, so it is better to stay this tank on it’s current br (it is effective as M41A1, while M41A1 on 6.3 still better than Super Hellcat).
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That’s the case for every ARH SPAA rn, with the exception of the Sky Sabre and SAMP/T, and HQ-11.
I don’t think an F-5E should face aim-9X block II and ARMAAM-ER/120D-7 in uptiers.
And it is clearly better than the Tan-SAM-Kai, why would they sit at the same BR ?
I think that’s debatable, but I’ll honestly take anything. Even just moving the EBR 1951 to 5.0 would help a ton, especially with it looking like gaijin wants to bring the KT and IS-2 down to 6.3 (both being tanks that the 75mm struggles to pen from the side if there’s any angle or distance involved).
what about the MIG21 Bis for Sweden it at 11.0 it need to go to10.0 or 10.7
Vehicle: Su-30MK2 AMV/Su-30MKK
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 13.3 —> 13.7
Reason: These aircraft are overperforming at 13.3. They are significantly stronger than their 13.0 counterparts despite only a 0.3 BR increase. Their combination of missile count and missile quality gives them performance that is much closer to a 13.7 aircraft than a 13.3 one.
With the IRAF F-14 already being moved to 13.7, there is little justification for keeping the premium Su-30 variants at 13.3.
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F-5E Meanwhile, the F-5E has to face the Pantsir-S1.
Yes, and no need to make it worst.
Vehicle: ZSL-92
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 6.7→5.7 or 6.7→7.3 with apds
I think everyone can agree that the CLAWS is an even worse SPAA than the NASAMS. At the very least, its Battle Rating should be lowered to 12.0 , and it should be made available without requiring an additional RP grind.
Air
SB2C-1C
3.0>2.7…???why???
It’s a solid if not spectacular plane. Capable of doing it’s job and having enough performance and firepower to give a decent chance for survivabilty against opposition planes.
I fail to see the logic of lowering the BR of the 1C, doubly so when the SB2C-4 remains at 3.7. Surely neither or both should go down as the differences aren’t that great.
The latter variant has a more powerful engine giving a small performance boost, and the wider range of ordinance might be useful to some players, however this is certainly not worthy of a 1.0 gap between the two (personally I don’t think it’s even +0.7)
Mode : Ground Realistic
Vehicle : M26 (Model armed with standard M3 gun)
BR change : 6.7 → 6.3
Reason : If the BR of the Tiger II (Nr.1-50) and the IS-2 (1944) is lowered from 6.7 to 6.3, the M26 should also be moved to 6.3. Furthermore, the T26E1-1 and M26E1 remain at 6.7, while the M26 is noticeably inferior to both of them.
Mode : Ground Realistic
Vehicle : M26A1 (Italian tank armed with upgraded M3A1 gun)
BR change : 6.7 → 6.7
suggest : The Italian M26A1 is fitted with the upgraded M3A1 gun, so it should be capable of firing HEAT-FS rounds.
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GRB: AGS 12.0 → 11.3. The current ammo is too weak for top tier battle. Lower the BR or have a 450+ pen ammo.
Suggestion
Air
SB2C-4 (also applicable to French SB2C-5)
3.7>3.3 (or move to Tier III)
If the SB2C-1C is going down then surely the later variant should follow suit. It’s got slightly more power with a small performance boost, and a wider range of armament options,however whether these are worth +0.7 is debatable let alone a full 1.0 different between the two.
If the SB2C-1C does go to 2.7, and the SB2C-4 remains at 3.7 then de-folder and move the -4 to tier III.
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RB AIR:
Continuing to move all those zeros up is wild. I don’t even fly them but i feel sorry for those that do. Yes they turn. Yes they are annoying but a 330-350mph fighter that keeps moving up like this is crazy. Please stop.
The mk 9 spits are pretty unimpressive to me with their cooling issues and loss of energy i would leave them at 4.3 or even move them down but definitely don’t move them to 4.7
Mkv spitfire could go to 3.7 with the 2b and the vb/trop the stats are almost identical.
Ki100 has guns its pretty average other than that i would leave it at 4.0.
Could you move the Typhoon 1b to 4.0? the typhoon 1bL with better stats is at the same battle rating of 4.3.
iTP could make sense at 4.3 if the overheating has gotten better i’m guessing it hasn’t.
Some of the other RB air prop moves seem reasonable overall
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M4A4 (China): Rank II → Rank III.
It makes no sense being Rank II while all other M4A4 are Rank III.
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The F/A-18C is also worse in almost every regard when it comes to flight performance, A2A weaponry and systems.
Also Kh59 are MITL and mavs are a joke when fired from an airframe like the hornet.
Vehicle: A-10C
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 11.7 —> 11.3
Reason: The main reason to lower the A-10C’s Battle Rating is to separate it from advanced SPAA systems such as the IRIS-T and similar platforms.
Although the A-10C’s BR was recently lowered, it still faces these advanced air defense systems. At the same time, it has no significant advantages over the A-10A. It carries the same Mavericks, it doesn’t have any substantially faster or more effective weapons, and GBU-39s released at around 600 km/h have very limited stand-off range and take a very long time to reach the target.
I believe the A-10C would have a much better chance of being competitive at 11.3 . In fact, many players believe its BR should be 11.0 .
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T26E5 - 6.7 → 6.7 (Ground RB)
I really don’t think this tank needs a higher BR. It’s a perfect counterpart to Tiger II and it should stay as it is. The armor is thick, but the cannon is bit underwhelming compared to its counterparts at this BR.
M26 - 6.7 → 6.3 (Ground AB & RB)
As you are moving Tiger II (Nr. 1-50) and IS-2 1944 to 6.3, I see literally no reason to leave M26 behind. This tank is not as good as Tiger II, T26E1-1/T26E5 and T34 (US). It would make perfect sense to bring it to 6.3 along with the Tiger 2 (Nr. 1-50) and IS-2 1944. It would not be overpowered, since M26 has plenty of weakspots in the frontal armor and even Pz.IV’s cannon is capable of knocking it out frontally.
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