This light tank only uses APCBC and does not have a stab, and does have a pretty wobbly gun. It should not stay at 8.0 where most of the other light tanks have acces to HEAT-FS, gun stabilizer and high speed, making all of them better than the Char 25 t. It’s only advantage is a fast reload, which is not enough against your opponent, especially in a full uptier. Dropping it’s BR to 7.7 would help it a lot, or considering giving it it’s HEAT-FS shell that would help the tank to be more effective (link below). https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cISYXF5iguY1
I’m a bit confused here as to why the Leopard 1a5Be is being deemed not effective enough to stay at 9.3
When it was announced, there was a follow up post about duplicate vehicles, and it was noted that France’s 9.3 line up needed variety now, hence getting the Leopard 1a5BE, and not waiting for the AMX-30C2
But now we’re seeing the Leopard 1a5BE dropping to 9.0, so what was the point?
Vehicle: Javelin F.(A.W) Mk.9 Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim BR Change: ARB: 8.3 → 8.0 ASB: 8.7 → 8.0 Reason: The Javelin is easily one of, if not maybe the weakest aircraft at its respective BRs. It is slower than most, turns worse than most and its weapon systems are hard to use. After its recent nerfs in Firebirds update, it has only gotten worse and really needs to be moved down in Battle Rating. In an uptier of any kind, you are a free kill. Especially with the introduction of the Hunter F58 at 9.3, which you are matched against often. Your only hope to do anything in the Javelin is a full downtier, and even then, every match is a struggle. 8.0 May not actually be low enough for this aircraft to be competitive, but it is as low as it can realistically go.
Vehicle: Eurofighter (ALL Non AESA)
Mode: GRB
Change: 13.0 → 12.7
Reason: Unlike the AESA ones they dont get the Spice and therefore have a lower effectiveness
Vehicle: R400
Mode: GRB
BR-Change: 9.7 → 9.3 [1]
or: No BR-Change but reload-time reduced from 6.7s to 6.0s [2]
(a picture in case y’all forgot how it looks because its already so irrelevant)
Justification:
The vehicle is extremely lackluster in comparison to other wheeled vehicles at the same (and lower) BR’s, such as the Rooikats, which feature significantly better mobility (power to weight ratio and 3x the reverse speed), gun-handling, elevation-angles (-10° vs -7°), with their sole downside being not having gen2 but gen1 thermals. (in case of MTTD, they’re even at a lower BR).
Type 16 for example is better than R400 in every singular way except gun-angles (gets -6° of depression instead of -7°), but has better thermals (gen 3 for BOTH crew + IRST autotracker), virtually same performance dart (17mm of pen difference, gg), a 12.7mm HMG, twice the ammo-capacity, same reload, better mobility and better gun-handling.
It’s essentially a fat wobbly brick that can’t move anywhere quickly enough, dies to HMG’s in certain spots frontally - and in any spot side-on, has poor ammo-capacity (20rds), mediocre gun-handling and elevation angles, just to get gen 2 thermals.
Imo, it should either be lowered in BR to 9.3 [1] or have it’s reload-time reduced to 6s in accordance to the maximum rate of fire of the TH 301 turret it uses (10rds/min) [2] to make it worth playing over literally anything else.
Spoiler: Excerpt from TH 301/A4 brochure for the above
As this plane keeps the low velocity Type 99 Model 1 cannons it is not worthy of being moved up, when considering that A6M3 Model 22 Ko has much better cannons and is more than fair at 5.0.
Change: Remove AGM-114B and replace with AGM-114K (atleast until we see AGM-114L)
Reason: The Comanche first flew 2 years after the AGM-114B left service. By the time it conducted munitions trials it certainly wouldn’t have fired it or even mounted it. It was planned to carry AGM-114K + if it was to enter service. Having it limited to AGM-114B is completely fictional. Also given that in-game it is lacking any of it’s countermeasures (M-130 dispensers, Radar & IR jammers) giving it access to AGM-114K will help with it’s performance.
Reasoning: This version of the Meteor is basically the same airframe as the Mk.8 G41K except it has worse engines and yet sits at the same BR. There is no reason for an objectively worse version of the same plane to be at the same BR.
It never gets flown anymore because of the MK.8 sitting in the same spot, so moving it to 7.7 would give it some room to be an alternative style of Meteor to the long wing Mk.4 G41F that already sits at 7.7. The trade off/ differences between them being ergonomics, energy retention and a small amount of top speed.
Vehicle: T26E5
Mode:RB
Change: 6.7 => 6.7
Reason:It doesn’t make sense for the T26E5 to be 7.0, it has a low penetration of 185MM, low acceleration/mobility against vehicles that will puncture it and have superior armor that will render it useless extremely easily
It is a perfectly serviceable SPAA, I have been playing it at 10.7 a lot recently, and it is still very good there It no longer suffers from its missile being terrible
Vehicle: KV-220 Gamemode: Ground Arcade BR Change: 6.3 → 6.0 Reason: The 220 being moved to 6.3 already put it in a rough spot in arcade, and now various vehicles with cannons that can easily pierce the 220’s armor even at perfect angling are being moved down, the 220 should move too
The E.B.R. (1954), even with it’s new shell it received sometimes ago, is too weak for 7.0. You struggle to pen most of your opponent even on the side, the gun is too weak for 7.0, especially that it often end up against 8.0. It should go back to 6.7 where it struggled already in the past, but that BR could be better now with the new shell. Right now there is no reason to use the the E.B.R. (1954) at 7.0 if you have the AMX-13, that do everything better.
Vehicle: Hunter F6 Gamemode: Air Realistic BR Change: 10.0 —> 9.7 Reason: It does not have the performance to compete at 10.0. It is barely good at 9.7, SRAAMs are still not that strong, it does not have CMs, it does not have a RWR, its a subsonic with a fairly slow rate of acceleration. It will be totally and completely DOA at 10.0 and unplayable. There is no justification for its BR to increase, especially if the Harriers which are superior in every respect are remaining at 9.7
