Man, you guys are almost identical stat wise so you should both be friends.
the guy your talking to
flank if or 2v1 your choice the BMPT isnt a very balanced vehicle
Luigi Cadorna and Armando Diaz are at a severe disadvantage against the queens of 5.0/5.3 naval (Leander, Dido and York)
If anything, I’d argue York deserves to be 5.7 despite only 6 20.3s just because of how much it can survive.
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hyper compression means i farm 5.0 destroyers in a 6.0 battle ship if only the mode was fun
the itlaian 152,s are better ngl. although the ammo has mid placement so it should be 5.0 still
Honestly if decompression won’t happen, change the matchmaker to .3/4 down.
This way a 5.7 can only see 5.3 while a 6.0 can only see as low as 5.7.
Ship:
USS Hoquiam
Mode:
Naval RB
Proposed change:
3.3 → 3.0
Reasoning:
This American frigate is one of the most underwhelming of the tec tree. With a top speed of merely 37 kph, a lackluster main armament of 3x 3 inch guns and limited protection (fuel tanks covering the magazines) to no protection (magazine of the rear 3 incher is above the waterline) this ship currently serves no purpose in the tec tree. It is outgunned by any of the destroyers at 3.3, making long range fights unviable and at closer ranges the limited depression at certain angles does not help either, if it can even make it that far in the first place. For comparison both the USS Litchfield and USS Barker are nearly twice as fast. The only positive I can make up are its secondary/AA batteries but once again, you fully rely on the enemy spawning a plane and getting close to you with that or for you to get to the middle of the map which is quite hard if not impossible without taking major damage.
Since this ship has no redeeming qualities over all your other options at 3.3, I am proposing a BR decrease to 3.0. It will still have to hunker along for minutes until it can get within range, due to the destroyer spawn but the lower BR could give it a run for its money instead of just being straight up outclassed.
Can we swap it around and move the F-14A to 12.3 and as you said B at 12.7.
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the F14 does get shafted at its br same kit as the F18A at 12.3 but worse radar because of horrble fox3 missiles
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Italian 15.2s lose to the leander’s since the leander is the better platform.
People like to aim empty space on british CLs/CAs and at most only ever hit elevators.
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Nobody forces you to fly there.
I would even argue that a 7.0 Spit F 24 has a higher chance to get something done than a 7.0 Me 262. Spits & Zeros were always rat-planes and required primarily mistakes of their opponents - but F 22 & 24 sacrificed a lot of their good turn for speed so their pilots fed way too long at 5.7 / 6.0 opponents.
It went down to 6.7 as gaijin refused to increase the BR of the 104 A and they pushed the F-86/MiG 15 to 8.0. So their current BR was not based on performance…
As soon as you try to justify or defend a BR placement by pointing at other undertiered planes flown mostly by retards you are weakening your point…
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ig you could but that would just worsen compression as 11.3 your strongest opponent is a F4E
aim-54 aint that bad 😭
And just as an example, every spaa in that 10.0 range has an easy way to avoid it, so long as you know what you are doing.
MANPADS carriers: pull a few gs and it misses. Most dont even have a proxy fuse to still hit on a near miss
Rolands: just do a barrel roll and it misses
OSA: do a barrel roll and it misses, you can also just climb a bit and its radar wont see you since it only scans 12 degrees vertically
Rapier: You dont even have to do anything really, its missiles do no damage 90% of the time. You can also do a barrel roll and it misses
2S6: do a barrel roll and it misses, stay a few km away and dont fly in a straight line to avoid the guns
Antelope: do a flare flower and it loses track
Strela: this one is actually very hard to avoid once it launches, but if you preflare you will be fine
Asrad: do a barrel roll and it misses
LVKV9040c: Stay a few km away and dont fly in a straight line
Completely random nerf to the ELC bis for no reason, it doesn’t even have a positive K/D. Awful change.
BMPTs BR changes won’t do anything to fix how gamebreakingly overpowered they are. Even when uptiered to max BR they still perform fine. What they need is hard nerfs to the vehicles themselves. Nothing else will fix them.
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trust me its so bad the AIM-54A is better than the C model its like absurd its so easy to dodge a monkey could do it
but because its in PRIME NOOB Territory its gets a bunch of kills literally a victim of gaijins own design
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Isnt the 54c just a 54a with a slightly smaller warhead and a much better seeker?
id say it could stay at 13.0 but with the addition of 9M,s
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Im still of the opinion that, like many others, the first step for the F-14B is to fix BOL and then see what its like afterwards.
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