ussr version was like 5 times on sale , now when they had extracted money from pl make it higer br just like they did with bmpt 72 2s38 t80ud
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it doesn’t need apfsds. I put it in 13.0 lineup still got nukes with it, could stay there and be fine
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Move BMPT to 12.3, then we can start calling this a proper BR change.
And it’s high time the Mig-21S (R-13-300) moves down to 9.3 or 9.0.
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Basically nobody understands the F8U going down.
F-104C is somehow going up to 9.7. It’s not a F-104 nerf cause A is same. Then only explanation is C being unpopular compared to A thus stats being inflated or ‘C has 2 more 9B, up to 9.7!’. F-104 is nothing but a flying pinata in the current meta…
puma too
The BMPT needs more than this… 12.0 minimum, take away the ammo box, nerf the accuracy on high fire rate or nerf the survivability. The thing cooked matchmaking way too hard from 10.3 to 12.7 for this little br change to be sufficient enough…
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Prevents it from fighting phantoms with AIM-7Es or MIG-21s, discourages playing it from the possibility of fighting EF2ks and SU30s
They’re decent changes but honestly I’m still waiting for the AGM-179 and Aim-9X to be added to the AH-1Z Viper. Maybe we’re not ready for the Aim-9X yet but at the very least the AGM-179 would be nice since it was the first platform to use the missile besides the AH-64E Apache Guardian.
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Personally as I see it with the whole Fakeour-90 thing…
Just remove the Fakeour-90s and R-27R1s from it… The latter for obvious reasons but how is this an "IRIAF F-14A “Early” with a missile from 2018? Also, tbf… Fakour-90 could just not even be real, kinda hard to tell atp from the lack of basic info
Aircraft:
All R2Y2’s
Mode:
Air RB
Proposed Change: 8.0 < 7.7 - 7.3
Reason:
Right now the R2Y2s just feel out of place at 8.0. Almost every match you end up going against stuff like the F-86 Sabre and MiG-15, and there’s just no way to keep up with them. They’re faster, climb better, and can control fights way easier, so you’re basically stuck reacting the whole time instead of actually playing to your strengths.
The R2Y2s don’t have the performance to compete on equal terms in that bracket, and it shows in actual matches. You try to engage and they just extend away, or you get forced defensive with no real chance to reset. It ends up feeling more like survival than actual gameplay.
Dropping them to 7.7 or even 7.3 would make a lot more sense. They’d face aircraft they can actually fight instead of constantly being outclassed, and players could finally use their guns and handling properly instead of just getting run down every match.
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Tor-M1 11.3 → 10.7
While it is an upgrade over the Osa, it does not warrant a 1 br increase. It still has a horrible minimum range of ~1.5km and the tracking radar is very prone to chaff
The Fakour is real
I don’t think the fakour 90 should’ve been added to the F-14A IRAIF at all
It would have been much easier to balance with the AIM-54A/R27R/AIM-9P combination
12.0 Kfir - 11.7 too.
Its just pure pain playing any Kfir outside of the C10
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Ground vehicle:
Leopard 2K
mode:
GRB
change:
10.0 → 10.3
Reason:
The leopard 2k remains as the most agile 10.0 with a powerful 120mm cannon with dm23 paired with its 20mm cannon that can swiftly take barrels i feel this br change is justified especially since the T64B(V) found its way to 10.3 while lacking similar mobility and having the same reload.
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fakour test launch:
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You know what would be great for future BR changes? An extra column with the Dev’s reasons behind each change. If we need to give reasons for each change we propose they should also give their reasons.
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And the c10 will most likely be pain if you are greeted by su30 in a full down tier
Not to mention the aesa missile spammers at 14.3
Interesting, never saw this before.
Cool.
I still think we should just have 54A/Sedjil/9P/7E-2 on the “Early”, add a “Late” later on with Fakour-90s and R-73s or smth
HQ-17 11.7 → 11.0
While the missile technically has a longer range than the regular TOR, it is only because of the slightly increased battery time, meaning that above 10km it is very easy to dodge. Still suffers from the same issues as the TOR-M1