The Singaporean vehicles were promised to the Israeli tree 3000 patches ago!!!
All jokes aside, i believe japan will have sufficient vehicles to flesh out their tree through other ASEAN vehicles. On the other hand, Singapore with our close defence ties to Israel can bring light vehicles and ifvs which are sorely lacking in the tree, along with things that arent a merkava or m60 derivative.
If Pakistani vehicles can be added into the Chinese tree due to their close defence ties and operation of Chinese vehicles, i see no reason why Singapore should not be added to Israel for the same reasons. Just to give more examples of the closeness of SG-ISR ties, our helis are upgraded to IAF specs, or have israeli protection suites. We also jointly developed the MATADOR with Israel and Germany, in addition to the Blue Spear. This is not to mention the plethora of other israeli systems we use for assorted applications such as CONTROPS optical systems etc.
Yes that is a map well done
maybe I’m misremembering but wasnt Finnish vehicles kinda needed to add lineups & backup vehicles? That was ages ago tho so Im not sure
Besides if we’re talking about geographically, Singapore is much closer to us Indonesians, as such they should be a sub-sub-tree of ours, in the JP tree. Im sure this is the most optimal scenario /j
but honestly speaking, I think Israel is a very very good option for Singapore. Sub-trees should be for nations which are lacking in terms of vehicles and as such need help because of domestic scarcity or the like, China doesn’t need that help because they have tons of very useful stuff to be added
im not saying Israel is lacking in these regards, what im saying is that the current implementation of Israel can be described as a bit of a barebones tree
And the Fulcrums as well!
Added even more Military details to my Singapore-Israel post above, bottom section. There is a completely separate Wikipedia page detailing Singapore-Israel relations.
You guys will probably be interested in the added info. It lists a bunch of specific vehicles that were traded/sold etc: Placement of Singapore in-game - #39 by SilentTracker
in my honest opinion, Singapore going to Israel will help with the problems Israel has with its current string of MBTs, the 2A4SG will help heaps with armor, if japan evolves into the ASEAN holder with ASEAN being the full sub tree is the only ever time i will accept it as i do play japan and after Thailand got added japan really doesn’t need anymore vehicles then what it has right now.
china has more vehicles in its domestic use it could have that will fill the CAS gaps, like later iterations of the J-10, J-16, or the Chinese acquired Su-30Mkk/MK2 are all good examples of this, or adding the the ROCAF’s F-16 block 70/72, and the AIDC F-CK-1, to add more effective CAS options to china’s table, as well.
as for ground i firmly believe China is being sandbagged for suggestions passed to the developers for ground as there are quite a few vehicles i have seen passed but not implemented that would solve a few of China’s ground issues on both the PLA and from ROCA respectively, both in terms of ground based assets and helicopter assets also.
i personally advocate for singapore for israel due to the factor of israel has limiting options and quite frankly pretty big BR gaps that singapore can fill with its IFV/Light tanks which would give isreal more mid BR spotter vehicles, meaning they have more flexability to adapt to changes in a match, and giving israel the Leopard 2A4SG will give israel another option for a top MBT and could also help with players wanting to push fights harder or have more vehicles to keep the fight going as they see fit.
Japan or China (ROC), Could go either way since there is plenty of justification to both.
I think a better sub tree option for Israel would be Greece instead of Singapore, Greece also has a close relationship with Israel and they have defense agreements and do joint military exercises frequently on top of them being geographically closer.
Israel also shares their technology with Greece and has even upgraded vehicles for them in the past.
There is also a suggestion thread to give them Chile, So they have a few good options already.
Not against them getting Singapore, Its just that there are plenty of other options worth considering.
the 2A4SG will help heaps with armor
They can solve this issue by actually Fixing the Merkavas. Israel can fill all the gaps by themselves.
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I find it really funny that people actually do this kind of things because how can they seriously think that any of these polls will have an impact on the game?
Hey, please use already existing threads on this topic going forward.