PL-12s: the Chinese AIM-120

PL-12 and SD-10 irl are wayy better than Aim-120 A/B
Gaijin probably nerfed them because they dont want to introduce Aim-120C-5 (actual PL-12 equivalent) just yet

It was nerfed on arrival. God forbid a minor nation shows up America and Germany.

dont blame germany bro 🥲 we sufferedd with a phantom for too long

theyre actually so prone to losing speed that i use them purely WVR

that RU main said it better than SU-27SM
i mean hello a god damn Phantom!? lol

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I’d say you had the MiG 29, but that thing gets a nerf every update. I am talking in general: American mains whine to get planes nerfed and uptiered, Germans whine to get tanks nerfed and uptiered. At least that’s how I have seen the forums.

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ehh technically we whine to get them unnerfed
lol

still love my migs

Russian main are no different than US and German
cry about anything they can’t easily beat
Leopard 2A7V
Strv122
AMRAAM
Gripen
Rafale
Eurofighter
hell, you can see they need R-73 for their 12.7 MiG-29 against 12.7 F-16A with 9L not long ago lol

The PL-10/SD-10 is better in Gs compared to the AIM-120 and just a little worse in range by a small margin.

Wazzup Beijing.

You’re right, I’ve seen more begging to downtier your stuff more than I’ve seen you lot begging to uptier stuff. That’s more America’s thing. I love the MiG 29 too, but man, I don’t enjoy using it for too long.

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i think i can make it work against an F-14B while using R-73s but its pretty hard

I mean if you’re going to open a thread to talk about a problem that China suffer from and then proceed to mention Germany,America just go ahead and close the thread.

little worse in range?
nah bro a lot worse

Only thing I will agree with is the R-73 at 12.7 debate. No reason why it should be running R-60Ms at that high of a BR. It’s good for 11.0-12.0, but after that it should run the R-73s as a final missile. I don’t mind them having the R-60Ms as a stock missile, but it definitely shouldn’t be the only missile besides radars.

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Same reasons why F-16A stay at 12.7 with 9L
if they want R-73 it either up BR or F-16A have 9M that fair game
9L VS R-73 anyone who think it balance need to pay more attention.

Meanwhile the MiG 21 with R-73s at 12.3

That’s because 1. it’s a mig21 with 37 second turn; 2. it only has R27R; 3. it’s a premium.

I mean 13.0 wouldn’t be anything unfair. MiG29G does just fine. Only thing is I hate Russian rwr and radar.

I know I know, I’m messing about. But let’s keep it on topic that PL-12s suck and it is the fault of American mains. Last thing I need is Stoner or Smithers getting pissy with me.