PL-12s: the Chinese AIM-120

The title says it all: the PL-12 is supposed to be the Chinese equivalent to the AIM-120B. Correction, the PL-12 SURPASSES the AIM-120B. You can search it up on AOL, Yahoo, Bing, and even Google, all of the sources you can find confirms that the PL-12 is far better than the AIM 120A and B variants. Couple that with a R-77 seeker, you would expect this missile to be the best in the game. I mean, you got the meta missile with the seeker of another amazing missile. Yet somehow it underperforms… Massively.

I can already hear the “skill issue” comments, but be honest: have you ever been slaughtered by PL-12s? I’m not talking one game every once in a while where you get hit by a PL-12 while you are already flat spinning. I’m talking every single game, one after another, slammed by SD-10s and PL-12s. No, of course not. In game, these things are not comparable at all to the AIM 120s (A or B), and especially not comparable at all to the R-77s. It would be an insult to compare them to R-Darters or even Derby, because I actually like those missiles. No, instead the PL-12 is the equivalent to a Matra R530 in a full uptier. It can lock, but will go after everything but what is locked in the green square of doom.
Of course, maybe they chaffed! Maybe they did a notch! Sure, I’d believe it if I didn’t see the missile go around a guy that was flat spinning 3km in the sky.

Now, I am well aware of why the PL-12s are bad. It is the exact same reason why everything else is artificially nerfed in game: because the American mains cry and whine. And please, spare me the whole Russian bias, because everyone and their mothers can see that this game favours America in the sky. AIM 120s are the best all-round missile in game, that’s a fact. Spare me the MICAs, this isn’t about an obscure missile from a country that only masochists play. What I am talking about is how every other missile had to be artificially nerfed BECAUSE it made the AIM 120s look bad. You can even find posts about it, how the PL-12s were supposed to be better than the AIM 120s when they came to the game, but we were all disappointed when the Americans got the best missile, and those that got the SD-10s and PL-12s got the raw end of the deal.
It is a simple fact that the American mains once again ruined another minor nation simply because they cannot handle not being the best. There is a reason the F-15E is at 12.7 when it should be at 13.0, and that’s because the players are so bad that even the developers couldn’t justify the stats to move them to 13.0, AND we have people in the community demanding the F-15E be LOWERED. Like somehow the supposed 104-0 jet, the dominator of the Middle East is so bad that it needs to fight MiG 21s in GRB, instead of sitting at 13.0 like other jets.

I got ahead of myself. TLDR: PL-12s needs a massive buff and be on par with the AIM-120B. If you are not going to be accurate, don’t put it in the game. Simple as.

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PL-12 and SD-10 irl are wayy better than Aim-120 A/B
Gaijin probably nerfed them because they dont want to introduce Aim-120C-5 (actual PL-12 equivalent) just yet

It was nerfed on arrival. God forbid a minor nation shows up America and Germany.

dont blame germany bro 🥲 we sufferedd with a phantom for too long

theyre actually so prone to losing speed that i use them purely WVR

that RU main said it better than SU-27SM
i mean hello a god damn Phantom!? lol

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I’d say you had the MiG 29, but that thing gets a nerf every update. I am talking in general: American mains whine to get planes nerfed and uptiered, Germans whine to get tanks nerfed and uptiered. At least that’s how I have seen the forums.

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ehh technically we whine to get them unnerfed
lol

still love my migs

Russian main are no different than US and German
cry about anything they can’t easily beat
Leopard 2A7V
Strv122
AMRAAM
Gripen
Rafale
Eurofighter
hell, you can see they need R-73 for their 12.7 MiG-29 against 12.7 F-16A with 9L not long ago lol

The PL-10/SD-10 is better in Gs compared to the AIM-120 and just a little worse in range by a small margin.

Wazzup Beijing.

You’re right, I’ve seen more begging to downtier your stuff more than I’ve seen you lot begging to uptier stuff. That’s more America’s thing. I love the MiG 29 too, but man, I don’t enjoy using it for too long.

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i think i can make it work against an F-14B while using R-73s but its pretty hard

I mean if you’re going to open a thread to talk about a problem that China suffer from and then proceed to mention Germany,America just go ahead and close the thread.

little worse in range?
nah bro a lot worse

Only thing I will agree with is the R-73 at 12.7 debate. No reason why it should be running R-60Ms at that high of a BR. It’s good for 11.0-12.0, but after that it should run the R-73s as a final missile. I don’t mind them having the R-60Ms as a stock missile, but it definitely shouldn’t be the only missile besides radars.

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Same reasons why F-16A stay at 12.7 with 9L
if they want R-73 it either up BR or F-16A have 9M that fair game
9L VS R-73 anyone who think it balance need to pay more attention.

Meanwhile the MiG 21 with R-73s at 12.3

That’s because 1. it’s a mig21 with 37 second turn; 2. it only has R27R; 3. it’s a premium.

I mean 13.0 wouldn’t be anything unfair. MiG29G does just fine. Only thing is I hate Russian rwr and radar.