PL-12s: the Chinese AIM-120

You’re right, I’ve seen more begging to downtier your stuff more than I’ve seen you lot begging to uptier stuff. That’s more America’s thing. I love the MiG 29 too, but man, I don’t enjoy using it for too long.

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i think i can make it work against an F-14B while using R-73s but its pretty hard

I mean if you’re going to open a thread to talk about a problem that China suffer from and then proceed to mention Germany,America just go ahead and close the thread.

little worse in range?
nah bro a lot worse

Only thing I will agree with is the R-73 at 12.7 debate. No reason why it should be running R-60Ms at that high of a BR. It’s good for 11.0-12.0, but after that it should run the R-73s as a final missile. I don’t mind them having the R-60Ms as a stock missile, but it definitely shouldn’t be the only missile besides radars.

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Same reasons why F-16A stay at 12.7 with 9L
if they want R-73 it either up BR or F-16A have 9M that fair game
9L VS R-73 anyone who think it balance need to pay more attention.

Meanwhile the MiG 21 with R-73s at 12.3

That’s because 1. it’s a mig21 with 37 second turn; 2. it only has R27R; 3. it’s a premium.

I mean 13.0 wouldn’t be anything unfair. MiG29G does just fine. Only thing is I hate Russian rwr and radar.

I know I know, I’m messing about. But let’s keep it on topic that PL-12s suck and it is the fault of American mains. Last thing I need is Stoner or Smithers getting pissy with me.

I mean now that PL12 is the 4th best missile as well as 4th worst missile I don’t think any one can say it’s ‘good’ anymore. RN it’s like pretty mid kinetics + mid manoeuvrability.

Everything that suck in this game is American mains fault, lmao nice logic.

yeah but thats kinda the problem
derby and darter are last two and pl-12 irl is longer ranged. like R-27ER ranged

Wrong


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what kind of program you are using?

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MiG 29 may as well be 13.0 with how many uptiers it gets.

Statshark, very usefull for testing aircraft performance and missiles

Okay, nice graph. Now how is that applicable to a normal match where you have half the players wiped out in the first minute due to AIM 120s, meanwhile the PL-12s and SD-10s are rarely shown (if at all). In my experience, I’ve had more eliminations due to the PL-5EIIs than either SD-10 and PL-12.