How am i supposed to play this thing?
i cant seem to make it work, weapon wont lock, speed is underwhelming in comparison to other AA missile and sometimes it just flies away or gets locked into the incoming missile, im having trouble hitting helicopters with this and planes will just outspeed it… flares also make it miss 100% of the times.
am i playing this wrong or the vehicle is just that bad? i think im having more success with autocannons from lower tiers, if this thing was equipped with AHEAD or HEVT it would be more suitable for it’s role but there’s just regular amunition besides the dogwater missiles
currently farming the Antelope which has the same amount of missile but i feel like my role is to be a target rather than a defense system lol
It’s actually bad:) the 25mm cannon’s projectile velocity is just too slow. Even with a high fire rate, the heavy projectile drop makes hitting targets beyond 2km difficult. and that 4xhy6 ? Just consider them as freebies (don’t expect them to hit… especially since the proximity fuse was nerfed…). Otherwise, why the sidm25 with 4 Mistral-equipped vehicles have all been moved to BR 9.7 (without radar)? It’s still stuck at BR 9.3.
the previous PGZ-09 would be a better choice. its 35mm cannon has good penetration with the ahead (emmm like 65mm, I think), with APDS self-defense rounds (and it even has hydropneumatic suspension)
and the next Antelope… I think it’s the most “unique” vehicle in the wt… At BR 10.3, it gets a full 360° 6km (I think it was 5 or 6 km? ) detection range.
played more matches with this machine and honestly couldnt make anything out of it lol sometimes it did work but very inconsistently, seems okay for ground assault if there’s nobody else playing anti air but against players its just bad in every aspect and its not a battle rating problem but more of a thing regarding the spec
i have read mixed things about the antelope so im not sure how good it actually is, the only downside i see for now at least is the scarce ammo so i might not be able to destroy drones and focus only in attacking planes or helicopters
i’ve been thinking about farming the Shturm-S for anti air since it has a very special proximity fuze atgm with a decent speed and is also multi purpose but idk i have four vehicles ahead to unlock before that so its gonna be a long way
So between versions 9.3 and 11.0, the PGZ-09 is a better choice. The Antelope is a very poor vehicle in wt (even with 4 additional reserve rounds added). In br 10.3 it only has infrared missiles (no image-guided ability), it might only lock onto jet within 3-4 km, and for rotary-wing aircraft (e.g. the commonly seen mi-24/ah-1 in version 9.7), you’d likely need to get within 3 km to lock on.
In reality, the Antelope is equipped with search radar. When it was first released, a user from Taiwan reported an issue noting that the upper radar on the Antelope is rotatable, but unfortunately, this was dismissed “not a bug” by a moderator of the issue section whose username starts with “t.” (t÷) Thus, it’s best to avoid playing this vehicle.
As for the Shturm-S, it’s certainly a strong anti-aircraft option. Its ATGM-VT has a flight speed of 550 m/s (for comparison, the Roland-3, common in version 10.0, only reaches 570 m/s). I wonder if you played Russian vehicles between 2020 and 2021? Back then, after the ZSU-23-4 came the 2s6 in version 10.7, and around ru 10.0, there were no effective AA vehicles. This led to a joke: before the 2s6, the best AA was the Shturm-S, followed by the BMP-2M
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HN-6 missiles require leading, and are potent when led correctly.
Haven’t figured out how to be more accurate with the 25s yet, though I am progressing there as well.
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Chinese top tier experience is like this. Now you know how Chinese players feel
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yeah top tier for china is difficult but there are some absolute gems too, currently im playing QN506 / WZ305-PGZ09 / AFT09 lineup, im just ignoring pgz04a for now since im not getting good results with it
another nation im struggling with at top tier is germany rank VI bcoz there are two lines of the tree where only one vehicle is available, so in order to get into the next rank i have to farm other tree lines that i havent researched and get them to 8.3 so i can have all the vehicles requiered for the next rank, i think it would be nice if another two vehicles were added into VI rank for AA and ATGM segment
I love that vehicle but it needs to be reclassified as an anti tank missile carrier instead, i dont know if its a light tank bcoz it uses a heavy tank chasis nor an IFV since it lacks the ability to carry and transport troops and all of it’s weaponry is designed to pierce armor (two type of atgm and darts)
other things i notice is the lack of ability to fire an atgm from a single launcher or the fact that a shot to a one side depletes ammo from both sides
the f&f missiles also work in a strange way, i feel like these were meant to be top attack due to their initial vertical phase but its not and will attempt to strike the frontal armor around the cannon and either damage the cannon or score a critical hit, if lucky you’ll hit something carrying HE which is rare as most players use APFSDS in this battle rating
It is a unique vehicle but it is not competitive. If Gaijin adds the BMPT Terminator it would be a better version of this.