At least, Gripen(the one which caused artificial nerf on BOL) doesn’t have 240CM without BOL.
Maybe an F-15A late premium with AIM-120 and BOL at 13.3 (I can justify this BR)
ah HELL NAH. NO more premiums for the U.S
I’d buy it in a heartbeat ngl
Just grind it. No 90$ for a tt plane with a new missile. Get them pods on the TT planes
I can, but I think premium would make sense for a variant like that. Not to mention, unless they limit number of BOL pylons normal F-15A would be pretty good at 13.0
Problem is that not only you will buy it, and then we are off again. Me having to fight 5 Su-30SMs while my team is dead.
Second problem is that if they end up doing that, it might just end up like the NETZ. Instead of fixing it, making another variant of that issue and selling it
thats true for air RB but f15e should absolutely get BOL because gaijins insistence on it only having 120 countermeasures with a targeting pod (which is incorect as the lantern pod only prevents flares not chaff) which means f15e is forced to operate within fairly close range and highly contested airspace with very few counter measures (they drop 2 at a time)
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That’s the most unfortunate thing and that’s why i’ve made the bug report on it
Frankly every top tier US jet at this point should have access to BOL Pods
Most other nations at top tier now have access to MAWS or extra countermeasures through BOL or any similar system
And the F-15E in specific is missing its EPAWSS system that adds both extra cms and a form of MAWS
Currently the F-15I has the extra CMs from EPAWSS but not the MAWS
And japan has been trying to get its MAWS modeled on the F-15J for a very long time now but no progress has been made
Then you have the F-16 missing its PIDS that was already given to another nation now
bold of you to assume gajinn would accept any american sources unless the bug report is written in russian lmao… though i wonder if that could actually work
It is doubly stupid because it is only a restriction for the anachronistic LANTIRN TGP.
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I don’t think that the BOL pods or even EPAWSS or PIDS would be a game breaking concept. The EFT has MAWs and 400 something cm. It is considered to be on the same level as the F-15E.
Given EPAWSS, the F-15E will still be weaker that the EFT from that standpoint, just cause ECM isn’t modeled for now.
At that point your asking for essentially a completely different jet though.
EPAWSS is probably only going to be seen on an F-15E “late”, as there is 0 sense in putting it on a jet with APG-70, LANTIRN, 9Ms and at best 120C-5s, to say nothing of its ground options.
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That’s why I believe that the EPAWSS should be an F-15EX only, even if it got equipped on the E
Or they just add a 2nd E too? And while they’re at it a desert storm spec E, while adding EGBU to the current E as well as laser SDB
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And folder them for a quarter of the research? Yeah. Maybe it would be alright. Even better
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Conclusion: The FA-18C Early requires integration of BOL countermeasure dispensers. Its future niche aligns with existing premium packs like the A-10A Thunderbolt II and AV-8B (NA) Harrier – offering limited tech-tree progression (with diminishing efficiency over time) while serving as a ground-attack platform in Ground Realistic Battles (GRB). Consequently, enhanced survivability is essential.
Key Reasoning:
- Upcoming Competition: Next update introduces the German F/A-18 pack and Italian MiG-29 pack. While specifics of the German variant are beyond this discussion (ideally both should have unique strengths, e.g., potential German advantages vs. superior US countermeasures for balanced satisfaction), their core role overlaps with the US F/A-18C Early.
- The MiG-29 Threat:This new top-tier premium (BR 12.7) will directly contest the F/A-18C Early. Its superior speed allows faster base-striking with napalm for Research Points (RP). No F/A-18 variant (US, German, or future) can compete with the MiG-29 in this role.
- Compromised Air-to-Air (A2A) Capability:
While carrying A2A missiles (AIM-7P performance noted), the F/A-18C Early’s maximum speed (~Mach 1.03 at low altitude) severely limits engagement flexibility.
It lacks the initiative to pursue targets, functioning primarily in a defensive/reactive capacity – similar to the A-10’s tactical limitation. - Evolving Niche Definition:
The MiG-29 pack mirrors the historical role of the MiG-23ML: RP grinding via A2A and base bombing.
The F/A-18C Early, however, now fits the A-10A/AV-8B(NA)/F-20A niche: primarily GRB attack with secondary A2A capability (F-20A being analogous to the F-5C).
The F-4S occupies a distinct position. A future, faster US high-tier premium is likely inevitable, potentially further marginalizing the F/A-18C Early.
The Case for BOL:
Given its deliberate placement in the A-10/AV-8B GRB-attack niche, the F/A-18C Early requires improved defensive capabilities. Adding BOL dispensers is critical to:
- Fulfill its intended GRB role effectively against evolving SAM threats (longer ranges, AIM-120/AIM-9 mixes).
- Address player concerns regarding value perception (e.g., short pre-order exclusivity, perceived advantages of the German variant).
Recommendation:
Ideal: Full BOL integration (optimal player satisfaction).
- Minimum Viable:Provision of at least two BOL pods.
- Unacceptable: No countermeasure enhancement.
(Translated & logically structured by AI for clarity)
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Every American jet that used or uses BOL pods should receive because of the spaa that is teased to come in the next update. No American fighter has MAWs (besides the F-16C that should get PIDS). From that standpoint other top tier jets are more survivable.
Also, the finish hornet receives bol but the American one doesn’t?
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