Now, I believe that many of us have already learned that the upcoming BR adjustments will raise the maximum battle rating for ground vehicles to 12.0. Many people are already aware of the specific vehicle BR adjustments, but I believe many have also noticed an issue:
The Pantsir-S1, the most dominant anti-aircraft vehicle in ground RB, is somehow able to remain at the 11.7 rating. This is puzzling and confusing. Therefore, my suggestion is that, as the most powerful anti-aircraft vehicle in the entire game, it should accompany the T-80BVM in entering the 12.0 battle rating, rather than staying at 11.7.
As we know, Pantsir missile system has an exceptionally impressive performance, which of course is based on its powerful hardware capabilities. It is equipped with the best radar in the entire game, the fastest anti-aircraft missiles, and the best anti-aircraft cannons. Even when it turns off its search radar, it can still use its fire-control radar to hit targets, and at this point, the enemy aircraft’s RWR (Radar Warning Receiver) in the cockpit doesn’t even react at all. Such powerful weaponry far exceeds that of other vehicles at the same BR, such as the FlaRakRad, Ito90m, and ADATS. Now, with the planned BR adjustments in progress, I think we should remind the developers to take note of the highly unbalanced position of the Pantsir- S1, which grants Soviet players an unfair advantage and disrupts the balance of the game.
I believe the battle rating of the ADATS should be lowered to BR 11.3, while the FlaRakRad and Ito90M should remain at BR 11.7, and the Pantsir-S1 should be increased to BR 12.0. Additionally, the 2S38 is also in an unbalanced position and should be adjusted to BR 10.7. I will post later to explain why the 2S38 should also be adjusted.
What do u think guys, plz leave some comment below :)
Statement: This is just my suggestion for the rating adjustments based on exist vehicle data in game, and the in-game performance of specific vehicles may vary from player to player. I am not promoting ‘Russian bias’; rather, I believe that some technical reasons might have led the developers to misjudge the rating distribution of these vehicles. If anyone has other suggestions regarding the Pantsir, feel free to share them below, and I will do my best to investigate and respond to each one.
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actually they could give Pantsir the real data then put it in BR12.7 thats a good idea as well, then players from both russian and the other counties will be happy at all XD
Hot take I’m kinda okay with it being busted. With how strong top tier CAS is just having a mobile screw off button is really nice. You wanna talk balancing it? Give other nations an equal system so that they’re competitive with the PANTSIR as far as SPAA duty goes. CAS is a part of the game but Aircraft should never be able to dominate anti-aircraft systems, ideally it’s a game of absolute rock paper scissors. Plane beat tank, SPAA beat plane, tank beat SPAA.
its funny how a lot of people want planes removed from the ground and then right after they want to remove any spaa that can stop a f16 pilot with half a brain, if pantsir is removed 2s6 stands NO chance to keep the skies clear and you will have f16s running more rampant than leopards at top tier, you guys either dont play the game or dont think about how bad this would turn out
Doesn’t matter when the the fundamentals of the game are busted → maps / modes.
Currently we only have tiny maps with objectives short distance from each other and teams spawning practically on top of each other, making the AO incredibly tiny. A single SPAA is able to shield entire team. This is absolutely unrealistic and also gets more broken with higher rank.
When a low SP cost Pantsir can spawn anytime without any grace period or warmup directly below your plane, right after you cleared the enemy team of enemy SPAA, it just deletes you. It’s completely unfair. At least you see the plane coming on your radar or as a dot in the distance. With SPAA? Nope, just straight up pops into existence below you and 2 seconds later poof, your 1200SP plane (or whatever insane SP cost they ask nowadays) is deleted.
You can move Pantsir BR around however you want, until modes/maps get completely reworked, BR placement won’t matter a single bit. The only fix is EC style game mode for combined battles. Large maps, increased timer, spread out objectives, more spawn locations to the point where a single SPAA can’t just sit in spawn and shield enemies from their airfield to your airfield. There should also be a function that an SPAA can’t spawn within 5km of an enemy plane or at least a grace period that an SPAA can’t shoot within 60 seconds of spawning in.
I guess this game ain’t ready for it though considering people can’t even be bothered to stay in a match after 1st death anymore.
That’s not really a point, because it only benefits ONE nation, and by proxy one side.
Not to mention you wouldn’t need a pantsir if there wasn’t planes in the map.
It’s a bit nonsensical how you tied that altogether.
I used to be for TO mode, now I’m indifferent, I like CAP and destroying planes doing CAS. I still don’t use CAS.
I guess most of 11.7 vehicles will be moved up BR to 12.0, Pantisir-S1 may not appeared in the Planned BR changes, but may appear in the final one, it’s something that tend to happen.
it benefits any nation that is on that team, i often squad up ru with usa so it covers for both in that case, the solution is more competitive spaa for everyone not nerfing any existing one when cas already has the advantage
Yes, every other nation should have gotten a SPAA equal to the Pantsir by now, it was added in March 2023 so a year and a half ago and no other nations really comes close. There are certainly options for every nation to get an equal SPAA, but gaijin just doesnt seem to want to add them.
But…
that doesnt mean its at the wrong BR nevertheless. Pantsir vs ADATS it’s pretty clear which is better and that they really really shouldnt be the same BR. Id go as far as to say the ADATS could perhaps do with being dropped down to 11.3, Pantsir moved up to 12.0 and then add SPAA ASAP to every other nation at 12.0.