Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

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I know it wouldnt be that effective but the MW1/ JP223 with its 50 bomblets and 200 odd anti personell mines, but it would be fun to carpet bomb a ground map in track destroying mines.

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MW-1 I think would actually have some anti-tank capability so would be effective but would leave you vulnerable

JP233 would be pretty useless without the HEAT mines but would be incredibly fun in ASB for attacking AFs with following some proper SEAD

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but why, you already get a billion chaff from bol pods. plus you would have to give up a sidewinder

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In its current artificially nerfed state, BOL is pretty ineffective. If they dont want to fix BOL. then Phimat would at least give us proper chaff.

Phimat can be mounted in 3 places on the ADV

  1. In place of an Aim-9
  2. In place of the fuel tanks (allowing for 2 to be taken)
  3. On the normally usused additional wing hardpoints (where the BOZ pod is on the IDS)

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So it doesnt necessarily mean giving up an Aim-9 and even then. The primary weapon is the SARH or ARH. Giving up 1x Aim-9 for 216 large chaff is a worthwhile trade. In ASB I usually consider myself Winchester when im out of Skyflash STs

The Tornado ADVs trade FM performance for a very good defensive suite. Phimat pods are part of that suite. Sure full strength BOL and Phimat would result in a BR increase to 12.3. But I would rather be at 12.3 with 352 large flares and 216-432 large chaff than being at 12.0 with 32 large flares and 320 micro CMs for Flares and chaff

Im fairly certain the last we heard is that Phimat was planned at some point (about a year ago I think) and so far its not been a balancing concern for anything (Mirage F1 wasnt exactly lacking in CMs either) so I cant really see the issue with adding a Phimat pod.

It could be limited on the F3/ADV at 12.0 to only the Aim-9 one for the sake of some balance. But the F3 Late… It needs every chaff it can get

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• finally fixing the drag

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Yeah… unfortunately probably wont ever happen. Devs dont care enough to put the effort in.

Combat thrust is the best hope we have I think