ahhh i see well its still a bug that needs patching hahaha
At least being a gamewide bug, it’ll be fixed by the end of the week, rather than a Tornado only Bug that’ll be fixed sometime next year :P
if the tornado or mirrage 2000 added in the patch was USA or Russia, they would both be 12.0. but were are too skilled for that
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If not lower :D
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Had to close and reopen game multiple times to fix the terma issue
another massive gripe is the napalm bombs being stronger then actual bombs, whilst being lighter. gaijin just nerfed the unrealistic rocket spams and replaced it with the napalm spams… absolutely anything to nerf the tornado
Something i’ve always wondered with the Tornado. Is there any perticular reason these wing speed-brakes deploy with reverse thrust and not airbrakes? They only deploy when actually on the ground but just seems wierd its only ever with the reverse thrust
those are spoilers, I suppose maybe they don’t always use the airbrake when using reverse thrust because of the spoilers?
Maybe.
I wouldnt be surprised if they were deployed seperately and gaijin just linked it to the RT
now that i think about it could also be that they deploy airbrakes in the air a little bit before landing, but they still may need the spoilers to help with manuvering
so once they touchdown and use reverse thrust then the spoilers dont really serve a purpose other than to help slow the aircraft
Yep, I realised why they dont deploy in the air is because they are used for control inputs. but when on the ground it doesnt really matter. Just strange to me thats its with the RT and not airbrakes
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Tornado Gr4 has some wierd behavior with regard to “Activate target point” in Sim. Really annoying actually because being able to lock the FLIR pod onto something would actually be really useful but you cant at the moment because its impossible to aim.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4shviVWPe2uY
Edit. I forgot about the HMS/HMD. For some reason its massively off-centre when just looking straight forwrad, This also means the Aim-9 boresight is way above the nose (in the exact same place as the CCRP target point) which makes aiming an Aim-9 harder than it should be. This is also present on the Gripen C and I dont recall this ever being an issue in previous updates.
So either HMD was previously disabling when looking straight forward and now its not OR it needs re-calibrating when looking straight forward .
So i’ve reworked this report into a HMD issue rather than Tornado Gr4 specific
At least the LMM is quite fast
any news on the wing pylon brimstone yet? Or still a ‘no’ rn?
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The last word I recall was that SAL brimstones were only ever fitted to the belly. The pictures for those on the wings were mmV-only Brimstone 1s or something to the effect.
But Flame does have a bug report in for them
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/w89AoiZZoZu3
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As, in fact, and the point of its addition. Also did not appear. The main difference between GR.1 and GR.4 is that GR.1 is a low-altitude bomber, as hinted by its standard livery, and GR.4 is a mid/high-altitude missile carrier. The main features of which are the ability to quickly fire automatic missiles and get away.
Storm Shadow is not discussed now (while Grom-1 is not in the game), but if you were so afraid that radar brimstones would humiliate everything and everyone, then they would have given IR-homing head. Yes, this is not historical, but these are balance requirements. The missile works the same way (fire and forget), but with the ability for players to protect themselves with smoke. (To be honest, I VERY strongly doubt that the vast majority use this.)
It’s a bit frustrating when at 11.3 there is an aircraft capable of finding ground targets with its radar, point him TGP by radar slaving and using air-to-ground missiles “fire and forget”, and at 12.3 another aircraft cannot detect ground targets with its radar, cannot point his TGP by radar slaving and cannot use air-to-ground missiles with the “fire and forget” principle (the fact that your PGMs are listed as air-to-ground missile is nothing more than a crutch)
Oh, come on! The Su-24M2 is even below GR.1! Complete nonsense.
I have sooooo many questions for the person who is responsible for forming the BR. (About placing F-111C, Jaguar GR.1A, Phantoms (all 3. And especially about F-4J(UK) in ASB), Tornado GR.1/4 and F.3 Late)
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Nah,
The missiles aren’t DOA and can only be used to marginal effect in very specific use cases. It would have made no difference if they weren’t added at all.
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The absolute max range depends on speed and altitude, but the general effective range is 10km.
If fired from this range you will pass over the target several seconds before the missile hits, you may aswell have just fired a laser guided bomb with a little bit of loft.
9 times out of 10, a laser guided bomb will have been equally or more effective than brimstone.
99 times out of 100, a GR7 Will have been far more effective as it is able to engage multiple targets with maverics and LGBs.
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Quite frankly the worst top tier CAS missile I’ve used
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I’d rather throw poo from the cockpit
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