Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Hey ,when British can get something really useful?
In the past three versions, We just get 4 Useless things.
The tornado gr4 The f 111 c ,sea harrier fa2 And tornado f 3 late.…
Of course, there is also a very interesting advanced gift bag, MiG. But this is a gift bag.
I believe that you have got the date that They performs really bad,
So when can some changes happened to British? We still use the gr7… So many versions has passed, But nothing has been added that outperforms him.

the Most of the players i know think that the brimstones can get fnf,But many players are not in favor of giving Su 34 kh38.
is fnf really that strong as you gaijin said? I don’t think so.Everything you do is subjective. You don’t even want to test the performance of this weapon in a test suit, or the developers can make it, then do a test, and then show the results to the players to prove that it’s really too strong to appear in the game.

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Even if Gaijin don’t give the FNF mode, slightly strengthen the speed of the brimstones in SAL mode as a “balance”, it will not be reduced to the current waste product. Unfortunately, Gaijin still chooses a way that makes everyone dissatisfied.
Speaking of F111C, it’s even funnier. Our reliable developers have been very diligent in checking the manual and pictures for several months and still haven’t added the GBU15V2B it deserves to the F111C, while the BR is still at the same level as the F111F with AGM65D/GBU15V2B/6✖️AIM9L. War Thunder is really balanced👍🏻

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I think we’re just going to disagree here. I wouldn’t say ahistorical F&F modes would make for a good implementation, other compromises (AJ.168) are made because the historical firing mode isn’t implemented at all in game and the alternative is not getting the weapon.

If we do get to the Typhoon FGR.4 and there’s still no sign of (combined SAL+)mmW brimstone then sure, I’ll start complaining too, as we’ll be getting the F.2 first so i imagine there’ll be plenty of time for work on mmW seeker counters to be done before the FGR.4 arrives (and even then it’ll have all the fun paveways)

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Brimstone 2!
If gaijin try an mug you off with the same Brimstone performance as Tornado has, don’t accept that either. Typhoon has never operated earlier versions of the missile. It didn’t even start live firing trials until a year after Brimstone 2 entered service with the RAF

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I’m not sure why you think Brimstone 2 is the answer, unless Gaijin decides to implement the MW seeker the only real metric that’ll improve is the range. Which is useless since we’ll still be limited by the engine in regards to how far targets are rendered/can be lased.

could just add it as an IR mode,
that would be more realistic then whatever gajin decided to make out of this missle

As we have already explained in details, there are no plans currently anytime in the foreseeable future for the FnF modes. The reasons for them not coming in the first place have not changed at all.

Brimstone was added with its historical SAL mode. Adding a fictional mode of operation is not realistic at all.

so its gonna be stuck as meh for the foreseeable future great, at least they buffed the weapon I was already going to use on the tornado, I do hope if gaijin thinks this is to op that they will remove the KH38MTs and AGM65Gs

The reason for FnF mode not coming is kinda silly tbh. We already have stuff that can fire off at targets well out of SPAA range while being FnF the whole smoke ignoring part of it is hilarious because no one knows they have a missile or bombs coming at them from over 20km anyway.

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not to mention the FnF part of it doesnt change the fact they are incredibly slow and have a max range 16km

One Tornado with the ability to wipe out almost an entire enemy team in a single pass, not once putting itself in combat range whilst already being on finals for landing by the time they hit, knowing those Brimstones wont be countered by Smoke or most APS systems is not exactly “silly” reasoning.

The FnF weaponry already in game is not comparable to FnF modes of Brimstone. These are not accurate or reasonable comparisons.

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the F15E with 6 AGM65Ds and 20 GBu-39s, the Su34 with 6 KH38MTs both still gettting Fox3s in question

clearly the brimstone would far to OP being added in mode 2

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so… you know maybe limit the amount of carryable brimstones to like 6, close amount to what many other planes carry of fnf missles

ah no, thats just the russian planes allowed to do Su-34 . Su-25SM3 etc with the KH-38MT

at one point it is just better to make compromises, this is literaly a text book example.
limiting it to laser mode cripples the future european cas capabilities, considering its the only stand off missle the typhoons use

ah no, just stuff like the grom 2 gets tested in the mean time which would have been way stronger if actualy implemented

could just have tested mmw brimstones as well, butz u dont even consider it

literaly just take away 1 brimstone pylon from the tornado if those 3 missle differences are the game breakers

yeah thats what concerns me, gaijin will probably butcher the typhoon but still make us wait until it is inferior to the jets the US and Russia gets no doubt.

Brimstone in FnF mode is not comparable to AGM-65, Kh-38 or GBU-39.

well you added the AJ.168 in a fictional mode so you can make it happen

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explain why without trying to say LOAL, because we have suggested mode 2 that is LOBL, and ohno it ignores smoke Im sure the vast majority of top tier players see those AGM65s and Kh28s coming from 18km out