Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Yeah, planes that have a primary role as a strike aircraft should be able to better defend themselves against planes which are multiple or dedicated fighters, especially in ground RB.

As such, planes like the Mirage 2000D and Tornado really should get ASRAAM. Same for how early strike aircraft got lass aspect misisles at BRs where most planes had rear aspect only.

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Its tricky. In a compressed gamemode like GRB, a Tornado Gr4 with 2x ASRAAM vs F-15E with up-to 8x AMRAAM is an easy balance to consider and it almost seems needed.

But in Air modes, ASRAAM would innevetiably result in a higher BR and they are already going to struggle at 12.3. ASRAAM wont change that much Id reckon, at least not without other major buffs, like full strength BOL and even Sky Shadow. Let alone the fact that ARB is not well designed for strike aircraft currently

I hope the GR4 gets ASRAAM in the future, but the game isnt quite ready for it yet

ASRAAM isn’t going to ever have it’s real world performance. Gaijin would balance it “appropriately” The Magic 2 in game isn’t even close to how it should act.

The end of the day even in an Air RB environment 2 ASRAAMS on a GR.4 has the potential to net you 2 kills. Tornados are hardly going to be OP with ASRAAM.

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Yeah, but should still provide an upgrade over the Aim-9M. Both in terms of range and off-boresight potential. Assuming the seeker wasnt too hard to defeat, id still see it going to 13.0 ish and at that BR, its gunna struggle to reliably get any bases. Especially if its racing F-15Es and Su-34s to bases

It likely would perhaps a blend between the R-24Ts range and the R-73/Magic 2. Which would be nice.

But even with a reliable 15mile IR missile…The F-15s and F-16s in game can defeat it kinematically. It’s on a barely supersonic bomber. The lock on after launch feature wont be incorporated

Makes me wonder if they will add datalink GPS functionality to the relevant Paveways’ at some point.

Raytheon Demonstrates Enhanced Paveway II Data Link Capability

“Two Enhanced Paveway IIs were dropped from a United Kingdom Royal Air Force (RAF) Tornado GR4 aircraft. Each weapon was twice updated in flight with new target coordinates, and the precision guided munitions accepted the retargeting coordinates and successfully flew to their new final targets”.

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They do have it. Kind of. You can change the location using laser. After the, due to how it works in game, GNSS is turned off, but IOG with 0 drift is turned on, to simulate it.

In one episode of your Tornado video, you happened to shoot down a friendly even though you weren’t aiming at it. This has happened to me on a number of occasions, can you explain to me how does this occur, and how can we avoid it in tight turn multiple plane bogie-friendly engagements?

With which missile haha help me narrow it down?

It is in the “Loving the Stage -2G Tornado radar youtube video clip”, it happens at minute 2:05. I did not identify the missile but it was while you were doing tight turns to get a better firing position on the bogies.

The biggest reason for me brining this up, is that if it happens in cases where it is clear we are not intending to shoot down friendlies, then gajiin should not be subtracting silver lions away from the player making the initial shot at the bogie plane.

As a compensation the person that got shot down can then receive lets say 5k silver lions and 5k research points. This seems fair trade off to me. Now it should not be abused when players intentional set up matches and shoot each other down just to get easy research points.

You know you can apologise and neither person will pay any reparations

Ohh that was a sidewinder. A F-14 crossed the FOV of the missile and the F-14 is a really hot target so it switched.

Ahh, I remember when it happened to me an L button sign appeared, but I was too concentrated on maneuvering to press it. If it happens next time, and I press the L button and I apologies for the friendly fire incident, I wont loose SL?

You have “L” bound to team chat thingamajig? Well yeah it’s the same button that allows you to thank a teammate after they help repair you in GRB. Unless it defaults to “T”.

Yes I have the L button to thank team mates who helped repair my tank .When playing ground I press it all the time. I did not know that it has a similar effect in air battles and serves as an apology for team kills. It has only happened like two or three times to me, and its only during the last battle that I clearly noticed the L button pop up. I just did not press it on time, since I was maneuvering to get out of missile trouble.

So, if I press it next time around, hopefully it does not occur any time soon, the player who got shot down and myself wont be penalized SL currency?

Well… There is one caveat in which the person you shot down has to accept the apology. So…

Ahh, so there is a double confirmation need on the part of the person who got shot down to accepts the apology and confirm that it is not “done on purpose shot”. Well that is assuming the other person knows about this aspect of the game, I certainly did not know. Thanks for clarifying, learnt something new about war thunder today.

is there any information on whether proximity fuse will get brimstone?