Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Terma pod and brimstones, certainly a great toy for you guys

still sad about the brimstones, they should make them require a lock from the targeting pod.
Keeping the laster constantly will be a pain in the ***

Honestly they made f&f missles already able to reaquire locks after smokes and beam riding missles ingore smoke as well, i dont see that big of a problem

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@Gunjob did brimstone 3s have dual mode as well?

Brimstone dual mode and Brimstone 2 have it, I’d imagine that was carried forward with 3.

SAL mode is needed Irl for targets with little to no RCS and static targets.

litening III is gen 3 right?
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so we dont know?

if they didnt well screw germany i guess since brimstone 3s will never be added

still not fan of the unfair treatment , should just make it fnf based on spikes and pars 3

other countries being able to shoot 6 fnf missles at a time is an unfair advantage compared to being stuck to 1…

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Nahh I’m not a fan of inventing modes, SAL is an option for Brimstone and we’ve got it. It’s historical and balanced by existing mechanics.

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yes and no. standalone its balanced
but not fair and or balanced compared to f16cs with 6 fnf mavericks
specialy if its the only standoff missle multiple european nations will get access to

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Both can be smoked away. You will be able to fire Brimstone further out than maverick.

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Depending on the BR the GR.4 will sit at I might enjoy it more than the F.3

With Unlimited countermeasures and HMD it could be some good fun running round the map being immune to missiles with auto drops and flinging irccm missiles at ppl.

Not meta but could be some good fun

if it would only be the mavericks, KH38s etc
as it stands european capability gets nerfed immensly trough this
and i have to see it trough germany
or CAS capability is restricted as it is
trough this even more so

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There is no way to balance the ARH mode right now. It was this or nothing. I’ll take this over nothing any day of the week.

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while yes should just have made them like pars 3 or spike ers, in my view this would be a better representation

as it stands its just sad for me honestly

I honestly don’t know gunjob, the Laser mavs have a stat card range of 20km but practically can only be launched at 10km due to the seaker only having a 10km range.
The only hard number I can find on Dualmode Brimstone’s range is also 20km. :shrug:
I don’t have much hope.

Laser Mave has no IOG.

wait Isn’t Brimstone are FnF weapon? why Gaijin mess it up with Laser?
it supposed to be FnF but can also guide with the laser they are “Dual-Mode” for a reason
unless it had range like 30KM then i can forgive

We wont be able to use these low level as they are designed as they need the laser to guide them so the Tornado will be more vulnerable being at a higher altitude. With a singular laser guidance does this mean we can fire one at a time like a hellfire? When a AGM 65 or whatever KH Russia get are essentially lock fire and forget?

Glad to see the GR.4 coming

Its a shame the Brimstones are nerfed, but I think its understandable for game balance. We can’t just ignore the fact a plane could destroy ground battles because we like it :)

9Ms with HMS will be excellent for ground RB with the smokeless motor and the new pod looks great.

Seems like they’ve modelled it quite well and it should be pretty effective even being artificially nerfed

I do notice it only seems to have 9 Brimstones, I believe it could carry quite a few more in real life though

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Russia can have KH38 to strike targets outside the war zone, but Britain can’t. This is the funniest joke I’ve ever heard today.
At the thought that Su34 can immediately receive Kh38 to easily solve the NATO air Defence system, I can’t wait to laugh at the Tornado GR4.

when gaijin think Brimstone is too OP:

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The KH38 is very much op, however you can only carry 4

You can carry at least 9 Brimstones

We dont need even more CAS powercreep

If anything they should just increase the SP required to spawn the KH38