Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

[Piment1]

I mean… The Harrier T.10’s payload sure looks good and interesting o-o

[Tea_And_Country]

Its premium… We need a gr.5 in the tt to at least give us a harrier 2 with 9ls to use that isnt premium, same for the americans.

[Morvran]

But still got all the harrier nerfs And the GR7 and T10 have artificially restricted loadouts

[British_Chap]

Are the Tonkas meant to have BOL pods? For some reason it clips through the flaps when extended

[Morvran]

Yeah, their position needs to be corrected or something. But yes, they had BOL. Technically so should the GR1

[Gunjob]

I’m getting Nuclear Escalation withdrawal, take me bacccckkkk

- YouTube

[Dontkev-psn]

This mode but with SB settings could be Interesting :3

[Piment1]

I’m not seeing you asking for it in the existing Nuclear Escalation posts - are you sure you’re missing it that much?

[Gunjob]

My feedback is behind the scenes my guy. :)

[Piment1]

Fair enough!

[HITkiller]

PGM/1/2/3 will cause target point to become invalid. // Gaijin.net // Issues

why no one take a eye on this bug…

[FlyingOstridge]

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/7KgOsx76Shfe
I made one too brother. It’s really annoying.

[Gunjob]

Forwarded, Sorry @HITkiller Flying’s formatting was better. haha.

[FlyingOstridge]

[dotSHINI]

blatant favourism

[Gunjob]

I do favour a good formatted report. Especially when the user details the steps to repeat and affected vehicles by their blk names.

[Mafiat_595]

It does reactivate on LJDAMs if they reactivate, idk if EGBUs are different

[Morvran]

Ooooh… Skyflash STs now have LSZ data

Its giving LSZ larger than the rMax though

and so kinda useless information currently

[kingoftigertank]

what exactly does that mean?

[Morvran]

The display on the right of the radar gives you 4 pieces of information

Spoiler

@Morvran_

Radar Range Display

The best way to know whether a shot is worth it or not is reading the radar:

On the B-Scope display (the square radar panel) on the right hand side is a set markers that will tell you all you need to know about whether or not the target is within range and its worth firing

Line 1 is your minium range (or rMin). if the target marker is below this point, the missile will be unable to hit the target, less of a problem for more modern missiles, but well worth keeping an eye on for older ones

the Box labeled “2” is your LSZ (launch success zone) or NEZ (no escape zone) (varies for different air forces but its the same thing) A missile fired within this box is incredibly difficult to defeat kinematically, the target will be required to actively defeat the missile, even turning cold wont necessarily be enough to defeat a missile fired within the LSZ

Note, the LSZ boxes can be buggy, especially at high alt and can sometimes appear to exceed the rMax, this is impossible, so do be warned, but generally can be trusted

Line 3 is the targets current relative range on the scale, if this line is within the LSZ box or close to it, generally its a good idea to attempt to fire the missile.

Line 4 is your maximum range (or rMax), this is the maximum theoretical range of your missile, but just because the target is within range, it doesnt mean that a shot is worth while firing, only that if the targets fails to do anything, the missile should hit. Its definetly worth paying attention to this for shorter range weapons like the Aim-9M.

The LSZ (Launch success zone) is the box and it was previously missing from the Skyflash SuperTEMP missiles. Firing within the box means the missile essentially cannot be kinematically defeated, even if the target is running away from you, the missile will hit.

But the box seems to be the wrong size. It is physically impossible for the LSZ area to be larger than the rMax (the maximum range your missile might be able to hit the target.) As a result, there is no way to actually know where the true LSZ is, making the information kinda useless.

There is a similar report for Fox-3s but ive not seen it on an SARH before. Might be a bug related to the dev server and hte LSZ being new for the Skyflash ST. I’ll give it till mid next week and then report it if its still easily replicatable