Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

[Das_Jukes]

I imagine it could be quite fun in SB, I assume they could be used to target the SPAAs in the convoys and ground battle areas

[Gunjob]

@Morvran_

Tornado GR4 is more often depicted as running a mix of ALARM and Brimstone. Not sure ive seen an image of a Tornado GR4 with belly ALARM, but there is no reason why it would have lost the ability too do so, just less of a need to do so I guess

GR4 with the shoulder (belly) pylons fit with ALARM.

[Morvran]

Oh, nice, thank you

[Morvran]

Well, SIDAM 25s don’t have a radar but might be handy vs the Gepards at least, but I hope they add more SEAD overall

[Crazed_Otter]

Didn’t they update ALARM’s threat library during Granby using data from the Sneaky Nimrod crowd?

I recall a lot of the Iraqi IADS used French systems as well as Russian stuff - systems which ALARM probably wouldn’t have been geared towards but they seemed to update it anyway.

[Morvran]

Im just going by Flame’s spreadsheet on this from the ARM thread. But Pantsirs are 21 years newer than Op Granby and were retired in RAF service in 2014, about 2 years after the Pantsir S1 entered service. I dont know if the Saudis updated it though.

Edit:

Im an idiot. The Track is K-band which is why a lot of aircraft RWR dont get a warning they’ve been fired at, but the Search is F-band and is detected by ALARM. So it would be usable. So Tornado GR1 will finally get a weapon to use against a Pantsir

[Crazed_Otter]

I’ll have to do some digging. A lot of this stuff isn’t so much hardware as it is software - getting the sensor to ‘see’ the energy as a legitimate threat that matches something in the library.

[Crazed_Otter]

Ah - good stuff. The moment someone decides to power up their OPSV - they might get an explosive surprise in future. I like it.

[Morvran]

Yep, Gives a reason to ever take the GR4 into GRB which is kinda nice.

[luque13]

With the Pantsir SV yeah this be easy for it.

But it will be cool to launch these from distance while the Pantsir/SAMs are occupied with proper strike aircraft

[Crazed_Otter]

Better still - we get to look forward to the inevitable forum thread.

‘WHAT AIR DEFENCE DOING?’

(Posts this in the fullest knowledge that the average RuMain has no sense of humour.)

[WNxDavid990]

Would be awesome if they give ALARM it’s loiter function. Now THAT would be cool.

[Morvran]

and they have screwed over the Tornado GR1.

Time to bug report it I guess

[Morvran]

PGM seem to have been buffed, will check to see if its IRL range or not

[Scuzz]

mf, is it hard to implement something correctly

[Gerhard_bar]

Well well well

[luque13]

More than the 7 would be “Game breaking” or some other useless Gaijin platitude

[_Froge]

ALARM doesn’t currently work on dev

[Morvran]

With Gaijins idiotic decision

Tornado GR1 - Missing ALARM

In the Heavy Cavalry update, ALARM has been added to the game but artificially restricted from the Tornado GR1 due to “balance concerns”. There are 2 major issues with. The first is one BR placement, The Tornado RET8 is getting 4x AGM-88C at only a BR of 11.7. So clearly the presence of ARM at this BR is not an issue and the RET8 is an overall much stronger aircraft to the GR1 with more CMs and MAWS. The second is that the Tornado GR1 is only usable at 11.7 anyway. So restricting its loadout,…

[Morvran]

Shoulder pylons are WIP and planned apparently.

its the GR1 im pissed about