it is a less than 1% difference so yeah might as well be placebo
on the topic of subtle nerfs, did you know that the f18c and f15c are both under performing in str? did you know that the canards of the su33/30/34 are not actually modeled at all and are only visual? did you also know that the su27s fm was up until storm warning based on numbers from a very early prototype that had a wildly different design than the final aircraft? yep seems like its only britian that gets its aircraft nerfed.
the planes were added before separate brs were introduced, gaijin hasn’t gone back and retroactively changed the air rb brs of any other planes in similar situations to my knowledge
Did you know the Tornado’s still have a placeholder FM that is underperforming greatly.
Did you know the Harriers are all underperforming dramatically? Even basic things like the sooty exhaust was reported a year ago now
The Tornado Gr1 is 11.3 in GRB and 11.7 in ARB/ASB. It literally has split BRs applied to it.
No, gaijin has concluded that GBUs are OP for A2A combat and therefore all the Tornados with guided weapons must be a higher BR than those with only dumb weapons even though no one uses guided weapons in ARB and only sometimes in ASB but that is largely irrelevant to their BR placement
as i said, it was put at 11.7 before split brs were a thing and there are a bunch of strike aircraft in the same situation that have not been fixed either
Again, no, Gaijin have litereally gone on record and claimed that the Gr1, ASSTA1 and IDS (1995) are superior in ARB because they have “better effeceicny” but they have yet to explain how or why they do given they are 100% identical.
We never got that thread by the way, and a full year later, we have 6 100% identical aircraft split between 2 different battle ratings because… reasons…
Such as?
Is there a single other example of 2 strike aircraft being at different battle ratings in ARB without good explanation?
Only other I can think of is the AMX vs AMX A-1A but they do actually have differences in terms of missiles and guns
and they are also 11.0 with 6x All-aspect IR missiles whilst being supersonic. They literally cannot go any lower without being broken OP or loosing the R-60Ms.
The one with more CMs could go higher, but does it have ths specs for it?
To me thats a compression issue, like the Harrier Gr1 with 0 CMs vs AV-8C/Harrier Gr3 with 60 CMs vs AV-8A/AV-8S with 240 CMs all at the same BR.
But they arent 100% identical. Tornado has the Same bombs (for all intent and purposes), same missiles, same FM (bar the GR1 with its nerfed engines), same CMs. Not a single difference of import to ARB
Again, looks like a compression issue. Its lower in SB and lower in GRB, but probably stuck at 8.7 in ARB and cannot go down to 8.3 because it might be too strong or might have just been missed.
Still different though, It would be like the Israeli A-4E being 8.7 and the US A-4E being 9.0 for no apparent reason
Yes, because of a major American skill issue.
As a joke, if the USA bought Tornado IDS and named it somewhat similar to A-11. Their Tornado GR.1 must be on 11.0BR. while ours will be going to await further nerf from 11.7 to 12.0. :/
It isn’t the same plane because CL-13 Mk.4 is a Canadian-built F-86E, not an F-86A.
F-86E lost the leading-edge slat from F-86A, but it is compensated by the all-control tail.
So… on gameplay side, we could say that it is a Canadian-built British version of F-86A, though. :/
By the way, either CL-13 Mk.4 or F-86A-5 isn’t a strike aircraft.
in game they are the same, the differences are only visual.
the difference in skill level between the average player is non existent, people only say things like this because they want to feel superior to others for playing a different tech tree there is zero actual evidence that the average us main is any worse than the average italy main if you still believe this to be the case i really dont know what to tell you.
the actual reason its at a higher br is due to the fact significantly less people play the cl than the a5 italy than america meaning that its statistics change less and therefore gaijin dosent feel the need to change it (the amount of people playing the cl is low enough that a group of players once spammed out the plane for a few hundred games each and managed to get gaijin to move its br up due to that although they never went through with the change) this is likely whats going on with the tornado gr1 there are not enough players playing it to significantly change its statistics and thus at 11.7 it stays.
out of curiosity what role did britian play in the plane irl?
