Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Finally have some decent dogfight footage;
Gets 3rd Partied

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Oh god, Gunjob working on getting the F3 late up BRed to 14.0 :D

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Least skilled Tornado F3 enjoyer vs most skilled SU27 fan

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That sums up my attempts at dog fighting in it. Ive managed to almost win multiple 1 vs 1 and a couple 1 vs 2 against other gen 4 jets just to have some guy come in a kill his freindly and me in the process… Dog fighting in it is no longer the problem, its just games being far too large for top tier gameplay.

You would 100% have died in the old FM at the recommit because you wouldn’t have been able to turn cold in time.

It’s so much better, although to be honest this is probably more showing off how much of an insult the Su27 flight model is more than anything lol.

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If feels better for sure but imo the speed bleed with the wings folded out is a bit too extreme.
Imo the reduction in energy retention does not correlate with the slightly increased pull but haven’t tested the numbers yet.

Instead of a whole new aircraft I’d just petition to give the f.3 late the 106, it’s already an amalgamation of multiple aircraft at different time stages with 9M/Aim120 at the same Time.

any extra thrust is well worth it, that or just give us the extra 5% war power.

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Played a few games with the new FM and have to be honest the way the Tornado plays the loss of engine power really hurts it. Yes it’s great to be able to crank in BVR and try to defeat BVR missiles.

With the massive influx of J-10 players the games are low on the ground and losing that thrust and power weakens the Tornado. I hope Gaijin can do something to buff the thrust/engine war power to give us the speed we have lost back.

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As stated by gunjob, the flightmodel is final now and they aint touching it again

The engine lacks WAR power uprating, to fix the lack of top speed caused by the otherwise better flight model, they could brute force it by increasing the thrust, which would not be changing the FM really.

Didn’t realised it was Glider Thunder, thrust is part of the flight model.

It is a little interesting that they didnt take the Harrier solution to the Tornado new FM and just give it more thrust than it may have had IRL to match its IRL flat line speed. Its surprising that has such an impact on the rest of the FM.

Though I guess the hope is that if/when we get combat thrust. It will be slightly overtuned to make the up the difference lost with this new FM

Tech mod leaking 2025 april fools event on the forum, not nice…

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That actually sounds like fun. Really good gliders with guns, that are dropped at 100k ft (no reduced atmosphere) or something and you have to dogfight as you fall :D

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Seems i misunderstood what people above said @x_Shini disregard anything I said haha

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man this gets me hyped for both the gr4 tonka and the eurofighter cause brimstones look like so fun

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The other angle is also really good

But yes, if I was given a choice tomorrow between 100% fully modeled Brimstones on the Tornado Gr4 and the Typhoon with current top tier AAMs…

Tornado Gr4 would win every single time. Not by much, but would win

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I’d take a harrier with brimstone over the Gr 4 but if it was Gr4 or eft, I’d take Gr4.