And here i talked bout time.
Well, i would love to see it added as soon as possible, and then have new missiles added on the way. Due to WT having to take ballance into account, i doubt it would get ASRAAM early, even tho it appeared before other moder missiles. So it would probably join the game with 9M and early AMRAAM, maybe Active Skyflash if AMRAAM is not there when it is added, and then get 5C and ASRAAM when everyone get comparable things.
We will probably get when everyone got aim9xs
You meant ASRAAM? AMRAAM is the ARH missile that was talked about recently. Multiple nations would get it
Yeah my bad miss read they really need better names for this stuff
You can use the AIM numbers. ASRAAM is 132 and AMRAAM is 120
Thing is, there isn’t a F.3 that carried 9M and AMRAAM, 9M was carried by a limited number of F.3 during the Gulf War along side Skyflash SuperTEMP, that was also after they destroyed 100~ missiles before realizing modifications to the LAU-7 rails to “dechirp” our sidewinders was killing the 9M.
The CSP upgrade replaced the Skyflash SuperTEMP and AIM-9L with ASRAAM and AIM-120B. AOP added in the datalink because the MOD cheaped out and though you could use an AMRAAM without it (you really can’t) and FSP was the AIM-120C5 upgrade.
So a CSP/AOP/FSP Tornado F.3 would naturally have to start with a pair of ASRAAM, then unlock the 4x loadout and then the AMRAAM appropriate to the version.
Even if we went with a “late” F.3 as to add both 120B and 120C5 it still would not have AIM-9L because the very nature of the F.3 “late” versions is they did not carry AIM-9L. Was AIM-9L compatible? Ofcourse Do I think it should come with a “late” F.3? No.
As for the 9M that can only really go on our existing F.3 which if it did get Active Skyflash would make for a nice pairing. On its own its not worth the increase to 11.7 it would bring. You basically give up 11.3 and 10.3 games in favour of a good missile but not particularly useful the F.3 play style.
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I meant them as a placeholders (Maybe 9L/i?). It was done before and it should be done here. The moment we get to the ASRAAM, it would force the tornado to top tier. And there it would have no reason to be. There will be much more capable airframes then and Tornado will be a even tastier snack for them than it is for current top dogs.
That is the problem with what UK did. They decided to go with ASRAAM, instead of getting more capable airframe. So they had ASRAAM on a tornado. But in WT it will not go. Ballance must be here. So one nation having a plane with ablility to have nearly guaranteed 4 ir kills from 20km is a no no
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I’m expecting Aim-9M and Aim-120B at a BR of 12.7 and the Devs just calling it a day. I seriously doubt they’d care about things like the loadout being historically accurate, theyll just claim “balance reasons” like they have done for the Jaguar and Phantoms and that will be that
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Based on current IRCCM/ECCM features in game I don’t think any missile will be undefeatable. Also new maps appear to have alot more terrain features in them that would aid in balancing out some of the more difficult missiles to defeat. As in real life some of the best ways to defeat any missile is terrain masking.
That is why i typed nearly. ASRAMM iirc uses IIR, so it will be much harder to defeat it. And terrrain is equally mean to everyone.
I’ve heard about the dechirped AIM-9L’S but I don’t understand what it means. How did it affect the missiles? Was it the seeker or the pull ability?
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/555284-british-weapon-system-discussion-from-1945-present-sources-photos-performance-etc/&do=findComment&comment=9601946
Thats flames explanation
Non of that, the chirp is the tone the pilot hears before launch, a solid chirp is when the missile has a lock, the seeker is uncaged and can be fired.
The threshold for that solid chirp is pretty high for what the seeker can actually detect. This was removed from the rail in British use, which lead to a few things happening.
- Detection of targets at much greater ranges
- Detection of much lower emissions (including idle engines)
- No sound feedback on lock to the pilot
- The need to use the SEAM HUD symbology to see if the seeker was actually locked to a target.
As such the you ended up with some fairly different performance.
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Well, dechirping on f3 when?
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Probably never, as it wouldn’t benefit one of the major nations.
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Can we stay on topic please.
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I asked a question on the WT Reddit about the 1000lb N.1 and most of the comments were just people saying that it was a bomb. https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/17j1qnf/does_anybody_know_what_this_is/
Then I asked that same question here and got actual answers from actual human beings.
British 1000lb mk 83 bomb
In fairness I would definitely not like to get banned from here so I’ll just keep my stuff to a minimum.
sir could you ask them to lower the f4j uk to 11.0? it’s worse than the US f4s in every aspect
I saw that coming due to your post
@Gunjob Tornado F3 CSP more from Tornado F3 ? and Tornado F3 CSP could be 12.3 min BR or 12.7 max BR ?
I guess Tornado F3 CSP located after Tornado F3 but would add to rank VIII or rank IX
